Does anyone think it MIGHT have to do with those "funny" clouds that they are spraying in the sky? Hmmmmm. Check out chemtrails, organite and cloudbusters on YouTube. What is next is US!
Not Toxins Kil birbs easily that we dont smell or taste.
Frying pans with Teflon when new will kill birds the cant get oxgen andchoke,fact,
Rotenone that kills fish in Rivers used by States and farmers Kills birds as well.The related fish Kill cae first then birds leaving a simmation toxic chemical like rotenone acan and will kill tosands millions of fish quickly and in 3 days leave no trase as Most Biologist know but not admit publiaclly.Birds like red wings are relular swamp ,river birds possibly drinking this toxic soup and are very likely affected and ly of soon to die 1-2 days leaving flocks sprad across southern USA.
Birds are being eradicated daily by all Nations ,car bump them our toxic run offs kill them,many pesticides kill them from lawn sprays.
US Governmet has secretly removed destroyed millions of birds near airports and ther near by sanctuarys due to our deopendancy on travel.
Rather vthan build large airports outside of very well know fly ways we eliminate the birds .
Huge flocks of bird freak out all the time. Every year I have a tree in the yard that yields berries that attract 100s of birds. When something freaks them out they fly into each other, windows, the tree trunk. 1000s of dead bird ... well I don't know. obama, y2k, global warming, el nino, tea bag party ... who knows
Half way through the article, they finally mention, after several days of hand waving and panic, that bird die offs are not that abnormal. Then why all the sensationalism? I am getting a bit tired of the "it bleeds it leads" philosophy with modern news. Causing panic to get more hits is not the point of journalism.
No Rachel Carson - Lunatic Environmentalist Wack Job who is responsible for the deaths of millions of people in Third World countries from her lapped up propaganda.
This is freakin hilarious! You get a few dead birds in the US and now every dead bird or animal, around the world, that dies in numbers of more than 5 are part of some great mysterious conspiracy. People really need to get a life. Animals die in large numbers all the time. Next thing you'll be telling me is the Ailwife die-off in the great lakes is caused by some government experiment.
Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon. The U.S. Geological Service's website listed about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June through Dec. 12.
Slow news day I guess. Thank goodness they only caught 3 of them or we'd be reading about this every day.
It happens all the time. The term "bird brain" wasn't made by accident. I've had several fly into the grill of my vehicle over the years, dozens have flown into the glass windows at my parents home and died, and when flying in flocks, one bad move usually prompts the entire flock to mock the same move right along with it.
Lots of animals, birds, fish, use the magnetic waves to navigate.
If one wanted to go conspiracy theorist about this you could look at 2012 as a possible source. Supposedly the conjunction of our planet and the galactic center of the Milky Way could possibly switch our magnetic poles. I believe we also will experience a solar maximum. Sage brush and Christians could spontaneously combust.
I would imagine that would wreak havoc on birds, fish, whales, and planes, GPS systems, satellites.
Wait for mass satellite kill off! Communication satellites fall from the sky!
Plain and simple. The South does not have extreme weather in the freezing digits at this time of the year. This year is unusual because the lower digits predominate.
Birds fly South in the Fall and Winter, so they can bask in the warmth and live. "Snowbirds", just like humans. That is how they have survived in the past years.
Al Gore was correct. Global Warming. Do the Birds believe that now?
Anybody check on the status of the earth's magnetic poles? They've been about to flip at any time. It's a possibility, that is how they and other creatures (fish, for one) navigate.
Chicken Little: 'The sky is falling!' (No, those are birds are falling from the sky and dead fish in the waterways!) Let's face it we've mucked up Mother Earth, and disease is rampant.
But could it be as simple an explanation as H5N1---Avian flu, and one related to Influenza A in humans?
becca, YOU DO REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ILLNESSES THAT MAY IMPAIR THEIR SPEECH AS WELL AS THEIR ABILITY TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES PROPERLY IN THEIR WRITING?
that was nasty and thoughtless... hopefully you wont develope parkinsons or something....
who cares what this person believes? some people only have the net to interact with others from, and there are a million different points of view... OK I'M DONE PREACHING...
Yes, it is FAR more likely that President Obama took charge of chemical weapons testing personnaly and gave specific instructions on the release said weapons to effect the deaths of thousands of birds all over the world....riiiiiiight.
Why hasn't the World Health Orgnaization (WHO) and/or the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) stepped up to the plate and given a plausible explanation for this anamoly?
It might be as simple as H5N1, or the Avian Flu, and appropriate steps taken to ward off the spread of Influenza A among humans.
How about the commercial airplanes dropping contents of their waste tanks in mid air? Sh..t is coming down in big frozen chunks hitting flocks of birds. That would also explain birds with their air passages infected by E.coli.
Remember the big tsunami? In the most seriously affected areas, only those who took cues from animals were able to survive. If humans ignore other species, we will not survive. One way or another, we won't survive. Just look at the mess around us and, if that doesn't convince you, read some of these comments. Happy New Year.
While it does seem like these kinds of things have been happening frequently of late, it's still a little early to dust off the conspiracy theories. It's likely just due to more reporting of the incidents, like with the "rash" of shark attacks for last couple of summers.
I know.........Its the alien spacecraft with their cloaking devices on so us and the birds can't see em....remember they died of blunt force trauma... this is gotta be whats going on.....now I'm gonna go smoke another one and see if I can't get to the bottom of this........YeeeeeeeeeHAAAAAAAAAAA
Sing a song of sixpence a pocket full of rye,
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened the birds began to sing,
Oh wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the king?
The king was in his counting house counting out his money,
The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey
The maid was in the garden hanging out the clothes,
When down came a blackbird and pecked off her nose!
If humans ignore other species, we will not survive
Yeah, let's all follow the animals. Follow that group of lemmings right off the cliff! Follow that bird at top speed right into the window or screen door of a house!
Right. Absolutely brilliant. While animals sometimes have better instincts than humans do, only a fool would just blindly follow an animal's lead without bothering to think about it first.
Some of you really crack me up. You are soooooo quick to jump to conclusions when they are barely started on forensic tests. I hate to tell you this, but real life isn't like an episode of CSI, where the answer is available in an hour. Forensics takes time.
How about giving them some time to actually get some results from the tests huh?
The "Officials" say it was most likely from the "Fireworks" on New Years Eve. But if it was "Fireworks" you would have this happen pretty much every year on the 4th of July, Christmas and New Years Eve.
But I do not remember seeing any thing like this on a regular basis around those dates. If it was fireworks, there would be a steady stream of these reports each year on at least 2 dates if not more.
Does anyone think it MIGHT have to do with those "funny" clouds that they are spraying in the sky? Hmmmmm. Check out chemtrails, organite and cloudbusters on YouTube. What is next is US!
My Dad always talks about the Chem-trails and I've always thought he is losing it! saying things like "don't go outside because their putting that @!$%#e in the sky again" or "dang government is putting them dang Chem-trialsagain" I am now starting to believe him!
In 1999, several thousand grackles fell from the sky and staggered about before dying in north Louisiana. It took five months to get the diagnosis: an E. coli infection of the air sacs in their skulls.
Horse hockey
An e coli infection affecting several thousand birds all at the same time they get sick hit the ground and die? Who write this crap.
John Wheeler was found murdered this week. A founder of the Viet Nam memorial and former US military officer, he wrote and studied the effects of chemical and biological weapons for the military. Prior to his murder he worked for Mitre Corp. a company involved in creating aerosol spraying equipment for airplanes.
Pine Bluff Arkansas has massive stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, most recently at the arsenal approximately 63 mertic tons of phosgene gas, one of the most feared chemical weapons ever created, was buried deeply in the soil at Pine Bluff.
Additonally, a plane carrying Iranian phosgene gas (western governments have forbidden its manufacture) was enroute from America to Afghanistan and reports were that it's spraying equipment had malfunctioned.
Military individuals in hazmat suits were seen cleaning up the dead bird in Arkansas, interestingly enough, the internal damages seen in the necropsied birds was consistent with phosgene poisoning. Wheeler was leaving Delaware enroute to DC when he was seen acting disoriented, and confused, one witness reported that he was standing by his car with no coat and holding one shoe. Shortly afterwards his body was discovered in a dumpster and in a nearby dumpster vinyl gloves of the sort used by forensic investigators was found in a nearby dumpster.
Tragically, many of America's so ignorant and stupid rednecks and human garbage find this amusing. The more the individual comprehends the science of ecology and how the Earth functions to support and sustain man's very existence, the less the chortles and the amusement. And, anyone who believes the suffering and misery of helpless animals is amusing and hee haw time, teeters on the edge of psychopathology. In pure language, you are no more human than Jeffrey Dahmer or any other psycho.
The Earth's birds, right along with amphibians and lizards, are the Earth's pest controller and human disease checks and balances. If you think this eco-tragedy is ha ha time, then you just love the bird flu pandemic, the worst pandemic in history, and the plague. Hee Haw.
And, Silent Spring spells the death of man, duhhhh
Now, all together, psychos, chortle, hee haw, dudes.
mygirl, that's all very interesting. but how do you know those things? what's the source? can you post a link, please? we can't very well evaluate your information without knowing the source.
Excuse my typos...Iraqui not Iranian phosgene gas also, he was leaving DC heading back to Delaware...I included the link at bottom of first posting but first got info from Huffington Post article on Wheeler after reading the comments. Sadly, I am not a computer maven but please check for yourselve via Huffpost today, Wheeler article also look up EU Times
Not for nothing, just to add to the conversation, there was a man attacked by a “unkillable” cow on New Years Day. The cow was shot in the face several times, and the man’s wife rammed the “unkillable” cow with a truck several times. Coincidence??
Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon. The U.S. Geological Service's website listed about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June through Dec. 12.
This little factoid doesn't matter, the media will continue to scour the globe for dead birds because they know they can count on all the clicks from all the conspiracy theorists eating it all up, as well as the rational, intelligent people who try to talk sense into them. Those clicks are worth their weight in gold when the news organizations try to attract paying advertisers.
Since the Mayans (who couldn't even sustain their own existence) figure that things are not looking good for 2012, what are these birds falling from the sky a year ahead of time. Are they the 'early birds"????
Kristofer......... Obama.. hahahaha... I love how everyone blames him first... lol.. I am not a supporter of his but it makes me laugh at how quickly they blame.. or maybe not... has anyone else made the corralation to:
Black Birds and bottom feeding fish??? LOL...LOL...LOL... Maybe it is the KKK that is setting up Obama!! Too funny people!
It is a whole new world and with that comes news stories we are not used to. Lets see some articles on the UFO's in Arizona? Maybe they have something to do with it?! Birds getting scared and having panic attacks... better then if people were to see the UFO's can you imagine how many would have gone crazy??
Additonally, a plane carrying Iranian phosgene gas (western governments have forbidden its manufacture) was enroute from America to Afghanistan and reports were that it's spraying equipment had malfunctioned.
Even if a plane WAS carrying the gas from America to Afghanistan (which I doubt is very likely) it would NOT have been transported in the type of jet plane that was set up for spraying. That's absolutely ridiculous! It would be transported in a secure transport type plane, not a combat jet with spraying equipment.
And even IF in the very unlikely event it was being transported in that type of plane, they would have the spray jets disengaged and the nozzles capped to prevent that type of malfunction. Pilots and their crews have a very strict checklist procedure, even more so in the military.
Now unless you are going to tell me it was deliberate on the part of the US government or military, your theory is misguided at best, idiotic at worst.
It is really hard to read and follow your post. Can you rewrite using standard English?
I'm with you Becca, it was like reading one of those spam emails you get where the sentences are just a bunch of random words or phrases stuck together to try and fool the spam blockers.
I don't care what your problem is. This is an English speaking forum. And I'm not being racist or insensitive, but if you are participating in an English speaking forum, you need to have the basic skills to participate. Otherwise, just sit back and read or get someone to help you translate and/or type your message for you!!!!
Occasional typos are okay, everyone makes them, but when your message appears to be in some kind of code, it's time for some English or typing lessons.
You know, maybe if you weren't such an insulting individual people might take you more seriously. Insults and a condescending attitude do nothing but show your own inability to converse in an intelligent and mature manner.
I realize that probably means little to you, but it should. Unless of course, the only real reason you make your posts is to insult others. Which does appear to be your usual method of commenting from what I've seen.
"stupid rednecks and human garbage"? Really?
Try polite, rational commentary and leave the insults and condescension to the kids in school.
skor, haha, you weenie! you realize that the production of your latte, your black beret, leather vest and uggs all probably contributed to the death of thousands of plants and animals. the only answer is for you to strip naked and go live in cave, surviving on moss. hypocrite.
I have to agree with what someone said earlier. I am fairly certain this happens every year all over the place. For some reason the Arkansas article generated lot of interest so now the media is focusing on all of these events on purpose.
They're shameless hussies that will do anything for attention.
Got to say,, Chemtrails are looking more & more like the problem... Mygirl1 is on to it!!! And, without going into a lot of detail, here, may I suggest there are a lot of loose ends out there that need to be (and will be) tied together.
mygirl1 - was buried deeply in the soil at Pine Bluff.
They are in underground storage magazines made of steel reinforced concrete, not buried directly into the soil. Last year (2010) someone leaked the actual blueprints (Planographs) of the Pine Bluff Arkansas underground storage facility.
David: I excused my self for the earlier misquotes. The Pine Bluff munitions facility in Arkansas is a repository for chemical and biological weapons, when I stated buried I meant underground, not like digging a hole in the soil and dumping the stuff in.
I just find it odd that Wheeler's mysteriously found dead during the time of the massive and as yet unexplained bird and fish deaths, especially considering his background in biological and chemical warfare agents and his work with Mitre. I am not naive, nor do I hold to conspiracy theories although history has shown that some of those theories were in fact true.
It makes more sense than 'fireworks' or birds colliding into each other...watch a flock of birds coordinate with one another, same as a school of fish, they move as one. Then look at the timeline. I will keep an open mind, perhaps there is a more 'natural' explanation, but the military and certain government agencies have been known to screw up, or act in a less than responsible manner? Remember DDT being sprayed like water over people? Remember the atomic bomb tests where they placed soldiers in the area where the bombs were exploded? Or how about the test subjects given LSD?
I see. The truth squad of our government is busily at it, once again. The fact that every mass bird death reported here occurred within the past 12 months.
The "end of days" folks will have fun with all this feathered and finned deaths. They remind me on their less-than- educated anestors during the Middle Ages.
Anyone seen an old crone to burn? That happened when wells ran dry, or cows suddenly stopped giving milk, or the sky revealed strange portends.....
Yes I do know that some people may have issues typing because of some illness or disease. I also realize that most of those people would at least attempt to make their response legible. They are more aware of their issues with typing and so they would probably use the backspace button and correct their typos.
Most of the people who make comments that have lots of typos and make no sense don't care if people can read their comment, or just cant figure out how to use spellcheck.
If I did get parkinsons or something that made it difficult to type then I would probably not type such long responses and use the backspace alot. I can also hit the spellcheck button and it would automatically fix most of those errors.
No, it's not the end yet. These are signs of distress due to the constant destruction of the earth's enviroment. When the end comes, it will not be the end of our planet earth, but the end of modern human society. When this happens then the earth will start to heal itself.
Coming home last night in the dark here in Texas two birds were flying sporadically and almost ran into my windshield. They were flying so oddly that I thought they were bats at first. It was as if their navigational system was messed up in the dark. I have never experienced something so odd like that before at night with birds.
I had a nest of wasps this summer that was humungous. I have never seen anything like it. I have noticed nature freaking out for several years now. I can sense nature’s uneasiness. A lot more attacks on humans from wildlife these days, too.
I definitely believe the earth is cycling out. The earth is changing physically and whether it is globally weather related, or not. I believe the earth is doing what it is supposed to be doing. I believe the earth has done this before. Some scientists think several times. Something is ^.
Interesting, are you talking climate change or a change in the magnetic field? The latter would be a bit more frightening (from a human standpoint), the former we can deal with (as in adapt to, not fix).
That doesn't seem that unusual, it does happen every now n then. Now if like half an hour later a HAWK hit your windshield, THEN i would freak out lol :-)
This past weekend a gecko walked up to me to sell me car insurance. Later I found myself on my kitchen floor and felt like a train had hit me. When I got up I found an empty vodka bottle and an advertisement for Geico Insurance lying on the floor where I was. This was on New Years Day and for the life of me, I can't figure out where that gecko came from!?
Birds rely on navigation via the magnetic field. If that is changing, we'll start experiencing all sorts of issues. However, I'm not sure how a changing magnetic field would affect 100,000 fish, so I'm guessing that isn't the cause. It could just be a freak accident, like spontaneous combustion.
Funny thing, I recently pointed out to some eco buds that large flocks of waterbirds, primarily White Ibis,Egret and Herons must have changed their "feeding grounds"..instead of flying home to roost in an East to West direction over the river..they now fly right up our canal heading South to North until they reach the river and then head West..i've been watching them for 10 years..this is a relatively new direction for their feeding grounds and nighty roost returns??? I'm just sayin'..??
Birds do use the magnetic poles for long range migrations (little ions in their brains line up) but they do have eyes for short range navigation. I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with the electromagnetic field.
Back in the latter half of the 70's here on my street, there was a "mass die off" of starlings and martins. They hit a set of high voltage power lines running through a yard. I was there and nearly got hit with falling birds. It was more like a very slow rain of birds. it happened at late dusk and dark. Not during the daylight hours. Theority of the flock flew through the lines and a small percentage hit them. Law of averages.
Sorry about the misspelling. It was supposed to be: The majority of the flock flew through the lines and a small percentage hit them. Most you are talking through your hat. You have not personally been there. Get a life.
Magnetic poles switching... Yeah right. You do realize that process takes centuries, and we're actually in the middle of it already. It's so gradual that odds are no single generation of birds will be at all confused. Our compasses may become less useful for the middle period, though. Oh, and tell your grandchildren to stock up on sun-tan lotion. A weaker geomagnetic field means more solar radiation will be making it through.
Hot damn! That means we will only have the cockroaches to deal with and not the lefties! The cockroaches at least wont raise our taxes and pilfer our paychecks!
Frankly, having witnessed what a HE/ULF can do to a flock of birds sitting on a power line, it would not surprise me in the least if this were a military test, though the locale is not situated near the test bed.
Our newest military technology is gearing toward HE/ULF weaponry. It seems bloodless killing that does not destroy infrastructure is becoming the preferred method, though HE/ULF-ELF does not necessarily have to be lethal, or at least not to humans.
It may very well be an errant HE/ELF-ULF from an external souce, ie; satellite malfunction
Some interesting thoughts. We read about these massive bird die offs and wonder why. Some have speculated on a problem with their internal navigational instinct which is directly correlated to the earth's magnetic field. A field that is controlled by the movement of magma in the earth's core. We are also seeing large amounts of active volcanic activity in the world. This has an impact on the earth's magnetic field as well. The Global warming crowd points to the loss of glacial mass and sea ice as sure indicators of global warming which is technically correct, however the conclusion that it is a man driven problem becomes a stretch considering the recent surge in volcanic activity both above and undersea in polar areas. Remember that mountainous regions are areas of great seismic activity prone quite often to volcanic activity. If the earth's going through changes due to gravitational shift, or a heating up of the core and forcing magma ever closer to the surface at a number of locations, this in and of itself could be the cause of global warming and climate shift. The effect this has on evolved animals would be more apparent than it's effect on human beings as we are less dependent on natural forces than animals are for our survival.
Hot damn! That means we will only have the cockroaches to deal with and not the lefties! The cockroaches at least wont raise our taxes and pilfer our paychecks!
No lefty's then who is gonna do the work while you repubs sit on you fat behinds doing nothing but trying to figure out tour next swindle.
Yes, Nicole, many top scientists in the world are screaming, they have "no analogues" for the unnatural changes occurring all over the Earth's life giving ecosystems. According to science, man is "suicidal" when he kills ecosystems, and the birds featured in this article are biodiversity, the animals and birds that create, service, sustain and maintain the Earth's very ecosystems, all the reasons mankind is alive.
"National Academy of Sciences, "The extinction of biological diversity is a threat to civilization second only to thermonuclear war."
Your experience with the birds flying around like bats in front of your vehicle and at night sounds more like an encounter with Night Hawks. They are very common here in Texas and they like to sit in the roadway until a vehicle is almost on top of them before they will move. The Night Hawks will then fly around and manuever just like bats searching for bugs in the headlights. I call them suicide birds and they are unsettling and annoying.
In town I recently saw a strange man wearing one of those sandwich board signs that read, "The end of the world is coming!" Is this just a coincidence, since I live 2000 miles away from the bird droppings? I think not.
Later I observed our 3 cats and dog huddled in the corner communing with each other, when I came into the room they all separated and pretended nothing was going on. They keep giving me these weird glances. My wife thinks I'm crazy, but it's usually the non-believers that are the first to go.
Hot damn! That means we will only have the cockroaches to deal with and not the lefties! The cockroaches at least wont raise our taxes and pilfer our paychecks!
No lefty's then who is gonna do the work while you repubs sit on you fat behinds doing nothing but trying to figure out tour next swindle.
Yup no lefties! What a sweet sweet world it would be! And this goes to show you that nature is not fair. If it were the birds would still be alive and the unions would be dropping over dead! (and yes, I value an animals life as more important than a liberals, I will brake for an animal! Liberals just need to run faster!)
Wonder if the Earth's magnetic poles are getting ready to flip...there is evidence in past samplings of deep ocean cores that this happens periodically....since birds are more sensitive to the magnetic field they would be one of the first species affected.
Relax, every once in a while nature goes wild. Hoards of locusts, towns overrun by frogs, red tides, whales and dolfins beaching themselves. This year has been quite unseasonal, which could just a random effect or cause by some brief, or progressive anomoly.
Mayans I recall predicted worldwide floods, major eartquakes and a shift in the polarity of the Earth just to name a few of their predictions. So far floods have affected Pakistan, parts of Europe, Australia and earthquakes, Indonesia, Haiti, Chile, Southern Pacific etc........As for the birds' behaviour, perhaps the Earth's magnetic field is really changing and they as a result are experiencing difficulties with their in-built compass and sense of direction. At the end exhausted, they fall down to the earth, dead.
wtw, no offense but the mayans couldnt predict their own cultural demise.and why take advice from a culture that intentionally walked around cross eyed? and those boards strapped to babies heads to mishape them had to cause brain damage. how could anyone take predictions from such a backward culture seriously.
besides, we all know the catastrophies youve mentioned have been deliberately caused by aliens anally probing the earth.
@Brokinarrow I was just reading the other day that scientists are concerned because our magnetosphere is weakening. Maybe the birds are getting more solar radiation and that's what's killing them.
Maybe or maybe it's HARRP....they are everywhere and all government officals are corrupt...ALL OF THEM! The new media will say anything "they" tell them to say. Ecoli now? Where in the heck would birds get ecoli? Did they eat the salad at a mcdonalds? Next they will say it's anthrax and hurd us all up.....better watch out everyone....!
HAARP is very possible, Indigogal, but we will never know (unless Mr. Assange can get hold of the data and disseminate it). Also, Mr. Swanson's post above, hard to read as it was, has a plausible explanation as well. Whether certain pesticides have been banned or not, farmers, who used them and had faith in them, will cache them and continue to use them. It all comes to a boil and we lose a part of our life on earth. It is very sad. I have so enjoyed seeing red-wing blackbirds here in Georgia (for the first time in my life, as they are not around Santa Monica). I hope they were not the crew that comes to visit us in the spring.
LMAO! WORST MOVIE EVER!!!! But....my husband and I were joking about the same thing last night....maybe M. Night Shamalamadingdong was right after all! BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Mike that is funny---I just logged on to laugh---love these comments. I have no idea what is going on but all the wildlife is acting normal here. I live along Lake Erie-----everything is fine, beautiful day! maybe the aliens don't like snow and water...thats all I see.
Stangsallie...hehe...I always refer to him as Shamalamadingdong too!! LOL
And, other than having huge Monarch Butterflies flying around our back yard at night this past summer..we haven't seen anything strange here in Southeastern New England either.
It is all concerning...but I won't don the helmet until I see birds falling from the sky here.
LMAO! WORST MOVIE EVER!!!! But....my husband and I were joking about the same thing last night....maybe M. Night Shamalamadingdong was right after all! BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Shamalamadingdong
That is so funny, that is exactly what my wife and I call M. Night Shyamalan, we can never pronounce his name.
maybe M. Night Shamalamadingdong was right after all!
Actually, the root basis for that movie was based upon the real life defense mechanism of willow trees. Willow trees excrete a mild toxin when attacked/eaten and other willow trees nearby will also begin excreting the same toxin even if those trees aren't being attacked/eaten. It's a really interresting and rare natural defense mechanism. Of course, the toxin is far too mild to be harmful to humans, but it's powerful enough to send certain insects scurrying on to other more palletable greenery.
Regardless of the scientific premise behind it.....that was still the absolute worst movie I have ever seen. I felt like I had lost 2 hours of my life I would never get back.
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one that calls him Shamalamadingdong! I still don't know how to pronounce his name correctly....and I'm okay with it. :)
Yes that movie was terrible. I enjoyed Signs though. I admit I am one of the admitted few. Maybe it was Joaquin Phoenix that made me enjoy it...had a crush on him for years...haha. Oh and Abigail Breslin was pretty darn cute in that.."There's a monster in my room..can I have a glass of water?" Lol
I'm right there with ya....I loved Signs. He's had some good ones.....I'm hoping he was high when he decided to make The Happening....that is the only reasonable explanation to me!
Since when do five birds of different feathers flock together? At night, no less! And I'm no veterinarian, but do you suppose the physical trauma, contusions and such, might have resulted from them falling from the sky? There is little doubt we are killing our own planet. Are we too late to save it? Do enough of us even care?
@Brokinarrow - What does climate change have to do with birds falling out of the sky? Or fish dying in a lake nearby? Birds instinctually know how to fly together in large groups without ever crashing into each other. Thousands of fish don't die simultaneously of natural causes. Regardless, I believe you are only half correct in your assertion about the planet going on just fine with or without us. I think it would, sadly, be better off without us because we are working just as hard and fast as we can to kill it.
I just wanted to point out a few things. Mass deaths do occur often naturally. A good lightning strike to a lake can easily kill thousands of fish, though 100,000 is quite a few, and I doubt lightning is the culprit here. Anyhow, I feel they are trying to cover up how the birds died. Fireworks? Puh-lease. Fireworks don't kill thousands of birds simultaneously. And the notion that they all ran into something, thus resulting in their deaths, is also irrelevant, as some birds happened to drop in open fields. Nothing to hit there. I don't know whats going on. Hopefully with time our questions will be answered.
The fish died in a river not a lake. Itoo am familiar with reports of lightning strikes to ponds and lakes however those incidents killed more than just one species of fish when they occurred. I feel that there is something yet to be discovered about these deaths that will lead to some sort of natural phenomena similar to some sort of toxin released from the planet under the river bed. Just a theory.
John, what do you think the Space Program is all about, anyway??? ~ They're looking for another planet for us to screw up, because, this one will soon be unable to support Human Life!!! ~ Mankind is about to migrate!!! ~ It's really quite simple!!! ~ Once man is done with this planet, he can move on to another, and another, like a virus spreading across the Universe!!! ~ Awesome concept, huh???
Climate change has everything to do with this type of event. When people think of climate they tend to only think about weather conditions but climate is actually a bit more encompassing. Stronger weather systems generated by conditions in the earth's atmosphere and magnetic field, increased volcanic activity, especially in areas that have long sat dormant, increases in earthquakes, increased numbers of lightning strikes all this has to do with the climate. Even the changes that occur to the earth's surface do to volcanic activity and earthquakes have a bearing on climate. Changes to the height or size of mountains affect wind velocities and patterns which can focus or diffuse normal weather pattern severity in an area. Millions of tons of volcanic ash dumped into the atmosphere by volcanic eruptions can create a denser shield against ultra violet radiation which warms the planet changing temperature patterns to a region. Ash strewn across land that was once fertile can have an effect on the amount of oxygen that green plants regenerate in an area which impacts temperature, rain fall, and the like. The Scientists are so busy looking for a simple root cause to point the finger at that they are missing the bigger picture, that everything and I do mean EVERYTHING is interconnected and has an impact on each other. Man dumping tons of pollutants in the air does have an effect, but is it really man that is the real culprit or is it just the earth doing what the earth normally does and change because of forces over which we have no control?
Archangel, according to the science of ecology and the ecology of our ecosystem dependent Earth, man is only alive because of the Earth's ecosystems, and ecosystems are only alive because of the richness of their biodiversity. The red-winged blackbirds are biodiversity.
Everything modern man does, kills ecosystems. Modern man is in the business of paving, plowing, bulldozing, polluting, draining, chain sawing and concreting the real, natural surface of the Earth or ecosystems. Population losses and the extinctions of biodiversity destabilizes, weakens and kills ecosystems.
An ecosystem is one living organism, given life and function because of its wealth of animal and plant/tree biological diversity. If the landscape is natural, god-created or wild, rich with native animals and plants, it is an ecosystem.
Ecosystems are in the eco-nomics of all life, from the very atmosphere, the climate, sequesteration of C02 [many eco-scientists maintain the Earth is losing the ability to sequester C02!], the nitrogen cycle, the entirety of the Earth's biogeochemistry and the regulation and checking of deadly disease pathogens that cause man's pandemics, like the 1918 bird flu, the worst pandemic in history.
Frogs have been cited as an agent of the regulation of disease pathogens, but I would suspect this would also include birds and lizards. Birds are in the eco-nomics of pest control, pollination and seed dispersal. Without seed dispersal, the Earth's terrestrial ecosystems would be no more because of the losses of plant/tree regeneration.
The father of ecology, American Aldo Leopold:
"The land is one organism. The last word in IGNORANCE is the man who says of an animal or plant. 'What good is it"?' If the land [the Earth] mechanism as a whole is good, then every part is good, whether we understand it or not. If the biota, in the course of aeons, has built something we like but do not understand, then who but a fool would discard seemingly useless parts?
"To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent tinkers."...
NASA's primary mission is to study outer space, to learn the origins of the Universe and how we came into existence. It's goal is NOT to find other planets for human beings to move to en mass. (Maybe a small team to colonize the moon or mars, but not the whole planet) Even if it was, it's technologically impossible to move an entire planet's population to another planet capable of supporting human life. Even in "Star Trek's" time, it was quite the laborious undertaking.
Climate change is definately one of the culprits behind these things. And guess who is BEHIND "climate change"?? The one's covering our skies with fake "clouds" full of barium, aluminum, dessicated human blood cells, and Lord knows what else. The one's poisoning our water supply with industrial waste (sodium flouride/rat poison) and telling us it's GOOD for us....The one's stealing and destroying all the earth's natural resources for PROFIT: Oil, the rain forest, Monsanto GMO crops that deplete soil, etc. The one's who have made us dependent on oil when Nikola Tesla invented an alternative that would have made us FREE from government energy dependency, but his invention was suppressed and they passed the torch to their puppet Thomas Edison, who was willing to play their phony game. The one's who created nuclear warfare and other sinister methods of biological warfare/terrorism and who constantly "test" these things in our oceans whilst their big corporpate giants constantly drill holes and pour toxins in them to cover up their mess. I could go on and on and on. But anyone with a brain can see what's really happening and who is at fault. It's not the "little people" and the REAL "conspiracy nuts" are the ones who can't see that we are ENGULFED in an ongoing, many faceted conspiracy. These types of deceived dupes are the REASON that the conspirators are able to continue with their sinister schemes.
Nobody is planning on moving an entire planet's population. If you can't afford the ticket, you're not leaving. Only the richest of the rich will escape what they themselves have caused. Poetic injustice.
Ok i will tell you how the birds died..You see our Government created a device that throws out shock waves not electrical shock..But a shock wave like two cars collide..With this shock wave device it can crush cans and small objects...No doubt it can kill a human by crushing there insides.Isn't Science just lovely..
A concussion device... definitely plausible, they could tune it to different strenghts to use it both as a non-lethal and a lethal weapon. IF that were true, we'll hear about a few years down the road. Of course they'll still deny it was linked to these incidents :)
So, true story. Last night from about 5:00 PM until 9:30 PM or so I felt a continuous oscillating pressure on my ears that while not being very painful was extremely uncomfortable. It felt something like someone constantly hitting me over the ears with their cupped hands. Makes one wonder. Perhaps it really will be a supernatural end times?
This is strangely similar to the tv show FlashForward. Lots of dead blackbirds at various locations could be related to some scientific testing that we are unaware of. Maybe testing of new power sources?
And now we will never know since ABC cancelled the show. Just kidding around, but I thought the exact same thing when I heard about the first dead birds dropping from the sky.
This actually reminds me of "The Core" when all the brids were freaking out and flying into people and things because the Earth's magnetic field was collapsing.
Does anyone know of any huge power drains in Alaska lately?
All Governments test new technologies without civilian knowledge. They have to know how it works, be it on animals or humans, so it's not new, if testing is the case, to folks who've been around a little while.
Submarine sonar causes whales and dolphins to freak out and lose direction and possibly beach themselves. Some EW aircraft are soooo powerful, they can blackout a city. The Navy's EA6 Prowler is one of those aircraft. - far more awesome than it appear
Sorry, not the EA6 my friend. I worked on the Electronic Countermeasures in that great aircraft. The radio station near you puts out about 50k times more power than the EA6. Most aircraft do not need to transmit huge amounts of power because they can maintain line of sight to target while they are airborne.
The new airborne chemical lasers currently being developed may be able to do damage to birds, but they are so big they need to be carried on a 747.
Good morning world.....there is something going on here, these bird did not die from fireworks or lighting or hail. they were spred across a large area and there is no toxins in them ,but they have trama like they were blasted in the sky.birds navagate by the magnetic poles so look at the ozone and see if there is a bigger hole. People we need to find the reason as stewards of our planet...pay attention to the signs mother earth in trying to warn us of something to come........do not fall to sleep on this!!!!!!!
There will be no stopping this. It was foretold more than a thousand years ago. Before it is ove the earths inhabitants will have had to admit who caused it, and why. But it will be too late.
REGINALD, what do you think the Space Program is all about, anyway??? ~ They're looking for another planet for us to screw up, because, this one will soon be unable to support Human Life!!! ~ Mankind is about to migrate!!! ~ It's really quite simple!!! ~ Once man is done with this planet, he can move on to another, and another, and another, just like a virus spreading across the Universe!!! ~ Awesome concept, huh???
Great theory, except we don't have anything near the resources or technology for a migration off of Earth. Maybe in a few hundred years........now take your meds.
Here it is in easy term: Rapture was the "Event" only us heathens inhabit this World Now. Do what you like and steal what you want. Criminals are protected and those who are not are persecuted! Let the game begin!
l8te Heathen 2 Verse 1: Pagan ritual is the only thing hopeless people have that, and their God.
Definitely disturbing news.I too wonder if all that crap they are spraying in the sky might have something to do with it.Sounds like some kind of toxic cloud and/or spill.It might just be time to run for the hills.
SO, just how do you tell the difference between a contrail (condensation Trail caused by water vapor from a jet engine condensing in the upper atmosphere) to a chemtrail (chemicals sprayed by aircraft into the upper atmosphere) without going up there and taking a sample?
I can tell you from being at a local airport, seeing the effects on the roofing to the local homes (that the airlines and airport paid to repair and reinforce), and going to school to be an aircraft technician... Aircraft DO jettison shortly before a landing if there's too much fuel. It can and likely will do damage. However, it's not much different then people gassing up their vehicles. You're generally still only getting vapors. Jet fuel is far 'cleaner' than what we breathe in every time we fill up.
No, something else I'm thinking. It's not like the birds seem sick. They are just dropping. What's with the internal bleeding? And many different places at once, not just one sick area.
Necropsies were done. There were signs of blunt force trauma, not disease. I'm all for the US testing it's HAARP crap as noted above by Indigogal.
Now, if it is indeed the rapture as our sky god believers are warning, be sure to break into their houses and take their guns and ammo (I know I don't have nearly enough). We will need protection until we can re-establish government.
The blunt force truma was caused by the birds being hit by a VERY LARGE UFO which was traveling at a very high rate of speed. The birds were indeed startled by fireworks but that's not what killed then it was the ufo.
Birds are very, very light. The kind of blunt force trauma they are talking about could not be sustained even if a bird fell to the ground from a great height. Think of a small sack of feathers falling to the ground.
They do exist, but its no different from car exhaust except it comes from airplanes....yeah its not good - but you got a better idea? Sit down, I didn't think so.
Maybe we should just let God control the weather....these people are playing a dangerous game trying to control the weather. Their science experiments could endanger all of us. Too bad regular people just don't have a say in anything they do. Legalize weed....then at least I can be high when the end comes.
I don't find it strange that birds have impact damage after falling out of the sky. After all, gravity works all the time. What I find strange is the fact that they ARE falling from the sky. And don't give me that stupid answer,"They collided with something." What? If it was an aircraft we certainly would have heard about it. Heck, even ONE blackbird can damage an airplane. And the possibility that they collided with...each other? Gimme a break! Something is fishy here. Just what, who can say without all the data.
Move along citizens... nothing for you to see here.
The Ministry of Truth gives you this easy-to-understand explanation. 1. Birds die. 2. Gravity will bring an object to earth. 3. Birds will thus fall to earth when they die.
Go on about your business. The Empire will inform you of any news.
Yes, because government conspiracies, cover ups, U.F.Os, aliens, alternate dimensions, end of the world nonsense, etc. make so much more sense. All of you conspiracy theorist really are entertaining to those of us with an I.Q. above that of a turnip. Of course, the government has nothing better to do with its time besides kill birds en masse with secret weapons then sit around and dream up fake explanations for it. Riiiiiiiiigggghht.
Those with IQ's just above turnips (sheeple?) evidently do not have the sense of humor of us turnips...again...nothing to see here...move along...take your SOMA!
Well the government could do a lot of experiments with 2.3 Trillion dollars could they not? If you do a search for Rumsfeld press conference 9/10/01 you will see they somehow LOST 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS.
It's not lost, they just did not want to tell us what they are spending it on.
The Birds were startled by something, probably fireworks, they flew out of their roost en mass and hit something, it was dark, the object that hit them was low flying and moving yery fast. What do we know of that fly's low, moves very fast when it wants to, and we don't control?
Just critally think about this for a minuet. It has to be something that was very large also, a big UFO is the ONLY reasonable answer!
San Diego, why would any normal person without a personality disorder, i.e., sociopath/psychopath, find this tragic event amusing? Helpless and innocent animals suffering and dying in masse should not be humorous -- unless the individual is afflicted with a personality disorder. The enjoyment of the suffering and deaths of animals is a first indicator of psychopathology of the human mind.
Also, only an idiot would find the losses of biodiversity, a ha ha. Biodiversity creates, services, sustains and maintains the Earth's ecosystems, all the reasons you are alive and breathing.
I think you mean "callous." I also think these articles are much ado about nothing. If scientists say this happens often for a number of reasons, why does MSNBC keep covering it? It's sensationalism and only that.
Many conspiracy theories are based on fact. I agree there are a lot of nut jobs out there (and in here, in this forum) but to automatically dismiss EVERY alternate theory is not being a very good scientist. UFO's may exist, I said MAY, we just don't know. Governments MAY be doing things, very bad things, that we don't know about. There MAY be branches of the government, rich organizations running the world, that we don't know about. You cannot dismiss these things out of hand simply because a bunch of lunatics are acting crazy and making it sound so implausible.
Basically, it's good to keep an open mind to every type of scenario, no matter how far-fetched it may seem.
Actually, dismissing conspiracy theories is almost always good science because of how they work. They start with a conclusion and work backwards, rationalizing events and shoehorning them into the conspiracy scenario.
Because of that, they become unfalseafiable as any contrary facts can always be explained as part of the conspiracy. Maintaining the conspiracy is paramount. This is why 9/11 truthers, birthers, and others make such insane idosyncratic leaps of logic when explaining conspiracies. They are completely invested in the artifical predetermined conclusion they made up.
That is the complete opposite of formulating a hypothesis, doing empirical tests, and drawing conclusions based on RESULTS. In science, you let the data lead you to the conclusion.
Inevitably conspircay theories all fail Occam's razor and can never produce concrete tangible evidence.
They work backwards because they rely on the natural God given discernment rather than letting Fox News/MSNBC/CNN do their thinking for them. Ordo Ab Chao
Thank you for the information, Dutch. We will return to our normal lives, safe in the knowledge that our benevolent Emperor will have the issue dealt with.
Safety, Security, Justice and Peace! Long live the Empire!
For those who didn't get the joke... Swallow your pride and go watch Star Wars. Thank you.
yeah thats the way all citizens should think! who cares lets wait and see if we are told anything. sometimes people caring is the push that is needed to get results!something is going on and we should all be concerned.
What I'm saying is that we need to keep an open mind and go with what seems most logical when the truth is divided between several scenarios.
I'm pretty sure we went to the moon, so I don't believe in that NASA conspiracy bullcrap. Only because I've seen and read evidence that strongly supports the position that we did indeed go to the moon. The conspiracy theories are extremely weak and closed minded. Again the logical assumption for any intelligent person to make is that we did land on the moon, several times.
But with something like the Trilateral Commission or other powerful secret societies, I believe is entirely possible, and I believe their are influences on our president and government that are unseen. Some things are being controlled behind the scenes. Their ultimate goal is power and money.
However if someone shows me some real evidence to counter those beliefs, then I will adjust my way of thinking. My way of thinking is to get to the truth, whether it's in politics or religion (I mean spirituality, since I don't believe in organized religions) I go for whatever seems to be the most likely.
Did God create the Universe in 6 days? Highly unlikely. Is the Earth only a few thousand years old? No, many independent studies of fossils and other evidence (including moon rock samples) tell us that the Earth is millions of years old and the Universe, billions.
So again, whatever seems the most right, logical and truthful in my mind is the way I tend to think.
When police investigate a murder scene, how do they figure out what happened, they look at the evidence and work backward to try and figure out what happened. So apparently the "conspiracy" method of thinking is quite valid.
subterranean volcanic activity: electromagnetically frying the birds navigational systems, heating up river beds and depleting oxygen and food sources for bottom feeding fish. If you go to google maps and enter the following in the search bar you will see a geographic anomaly which I believe is a caldera. the points are the arkansas town, the louisiana town, and New Madrid, MO, site of the largest known US earthquake in 1812:
No not all of them are, but David's explanation is certainly more rational than secret weapons, chemical trails, and aliens. I would guess that we will see an answer and a bunch of conspiracy theories over the next few months. Of course if Arkansas erupts well then we know that David was right!
One More Time. "I will utterly consume ALL things from off the land, saith The LORD. I will consume man and beast; and the FOWLS of the heaven and the fishes of the sea." Zephaniah 1:2-3 STOP worrying about the environment and start worrying about your SOUL. HE is Coming Soon!
I sure hope so. I'm tired of all this human sh*t. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, parents killing kids, kids killing parents, dictators, greedy capitalists, people killing folks for their shoes, etc. etc. etc. This earthly existence really sucks. And I'm one of the priviledged American Citizens...I feel really bad for folks in Iran, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Venezuala, etc. etc. etc. Hurry up and end our misery.
If HE was coming why in hell would he only kill a few of the millions of birds flying and only one type of fish! HE would kill ALL of the birds and ALL of the fish.
Stop thumping your bible, lay it down, step back, turn around and get a life.
I hope that HE is coming soon. He's done some crazy @!$%# over the years, and has really pissed me off. I would like to express my displeasure with His tactics, in person.
I would be more worried if "his" Mother was coming - and I feel She is really pissed and I feel like our Earth is about to tell us all about it. Stop worrying about a sky god and start worrying about our Mother.
Now that's scary. A vengeful god who will kill everything just because he's pissed.
Is this supposed to make us non-believers want to convert? If your idea of a god as a mad as hell son of a bitch who's going to kill innocent animals and people without discrimination, then why would we want to worship or give ourselves over to that? If god is that much of a sadist, then we need to fight him with all of our resources since we're all going to die and suffer eternally anyway if we don't.
I love how the concept of a wonderful benevolent god, who wouldn't care if people believed in him or not, as long as they were basically good doesn't play out with the religious camps. They consistently favor a god who is a mean tyrant instead. That definitely says a lot more about the type of people who are religious zealots than about god himself if he even exists.
Mike: You make it sound as though most people of faith choose their god from a smorgasboard offering, selecting their fancy. Perhaps some do. I do not worship the God I endeavor to serve because I made an arbitrary or whimsical selection. I worship the God revealed in the Bible. I have studied the Bible for over forty years and have come, through the combination of faith and reasoning, to consider it accurate and trustworthy. I do not understand it, or the God is reveals, perfectly, but clear enough to persuade me that he is worthy of my worship.
In your 40yr study of the Bible, do you feel that the variouse books that were agreed upon and included by many different church officials over a period of time represents the literal word of God or their interpretation of it?
Galan, that an awful long time to research a work of fiction. As far a basing things on faith, why? I mean we all pretty much had "Faith" that the Easter bunny was real and Santa Claus was real. Why? Because parents and adults told us they were real.
They were used as a means of behavior control. If you don't behave Santa will not bring you toys, if you are bad the Easter bunny won't come and leave you candy. Then after we grew up a bit we realized that these beings were false and that our parents used these as a means to make us behave.
Your religion is the same thing. It's based on some magical man who you never see but who watches you every second. And if you don't behave you will never get to go to his magical play-land in the sky after you die.
So to me your Christian God is just like Santa and the Easter bunny, he is made up and used to control the way people behave. But instead of getting something material on this world (like presents or candy) you will get your reward in the after life (of which there is no proof other than "faith). You also are basing your faith on a book that has been edited a few times over the centuries.
Being Jewish, I get this shoved in my face on a daily basis. "Only Jesus can save you", meaning the entire Jewish population are not worthy of heaven?
Can you say, "Hitler was right?". No, God doesn't think that way, only prejudicial humans do. Open your eyes! Every world religion cannot be right. Even every Christian denomination cannot be right? How many are there? I don't know, but doesn't something seem a little wrong with all those sub-divisions of Christianity.
Oh noes!!! Not the second coming...again!!! Every time there's floods, earthquakes, disease (swine flu anyone?), or mass animal deaths it's always the sign of the Apocalypse. Churches and various Christian communities have predicted the end of the world and the second coming several times over the last couple of centuries, and wouldn't you know it, every time IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! I'm not upset or mad, I think it's just sad that an entire religion that is supposed to be so "uplifting" focuses on such fatalism...
Every time I see that line I see an image of a dude in a white robe, long white hair, etc, with a mouth the size of Texas gobbling up everything in his path, shouting "I'M BACK AND I'M HUNGRY!"
Jesus is the only one who can save sinners. Whether they are Jewish, Muslim, English, Catholic, French, Spanish, Nigerian, Somali, Mexican, American, Canadian........That's it. He is calling His own to repentance and those who do not know Him to Him and repentance.
I am sorry that some are shoving Jesus into people's faces. He never did things like that. I apologize for those of my brethren that have acted in a way that angered you.
Sorry countrygirl, I appreciate that you found something to believe in, but you beliefs should not be applied to others, only because YOU think it's right.
If a mass murdering rapist on death row "finds Jesus" and accepts Jesus Christ as his savior, announcing he has been "born again", he supposedly will be redeemed in God's eye and be sent to heaven. While me, a Jewish person who has been good all his life, never hurting a fly, will instantly go to hell just because I haven't accepted Jesus as my savior.
I know to you, that's how it seems it works, but in my own opinion, it's the most illogical piece of thinking mankind has ever dreamed up.
Just convert, then you can kill and rape all you want. Then you can just say I'm sorry. Just because you chose the wrong belief system gives you no right to condem others. Hey I used to work hard for a living, getting up early and going off to my job, then I discovered public assistance a viola, now I can sit around all day posting crap on blogs. I used to condemn those that chose this lifestyle, now I've seen the light!
at least someone intelligent is going to take the time to figure this out instaed of shooting from the hip......wow, there are some very interesting posters in here
The latter is more plausible than the former. There are a number of reasons that volcanic activity could be a contributing factor. The oil spill would have affected sea birds and certainly birds close to shore, but a couple hundred miles from the gulf? Even if it were the result of contaminated insects from the spill, can you really see a mosquito flying a couple hundred miles to be eaten by a bird? I wouldn't discount it as a reason but it would be pretty near the bottom of the list.
howwa 'bout : the idea that oil is not just oil.. that its a "coolant" for the earths core... and after decades of draining this "coolant" Mother Nature is countering its effects...ie "global warming" not in the idea of atmospherical "warming" but the warming of the earths core... which would cause the ice to melt, in turn altering the temp of the oceans water and the currents flow... which in turn would cause different weather patterns ( even without this new 'weather making machine' ) and the earthquakes (plates moving around under the pressure of the rising temps) Then throw in all the underground testing and dumping of who knows what ( nukes and the like, biohazard materials ect ect )
oh so back to the point... the gulf oil spill... with all that oil just pissing out of that pipe, how do we know just how much came out??? dont get me wrong i dont believe that it caused chaos in the oceans ecosystem... after all microbes do amazing things every day that go unseen...
SOOO what if it leaked out more then the sheeple were lead to believe and it was the "tipping point" to a chain of chain reactions??? That will led to.......
And how would the oil spill kill them simultaneously in flight? Poison/contamination like that would make them sick, they'd stop flying, eventually die wherever they're roosting... they wouldn't die mid-flight all at once. I certainly am not an expert in the field, but the suggestion that they flew into a pocket of freezing air (or something similar) makes more sense than a LOT of the other ideas being suggested here. I have to HOPE that most of these are meant as fun and NOT serious!!
Remember when lots of whales started to beach themselves and apparent suicide some years ago it was later found that it was caused by the Navy's submarines and some sort of sonar that was ( and probably still) used. I am willing to bet that some sort of ray, sonar probably from one of those secret Satellites might be the cause probably a beam directed ray that those unfortunate animals got caught up in being tested... okay in Arkansas the birds apparently fell out of the sky but also note the river in the same area the fish also died almost right under the area the birds died.. I bet the same in Sweden if there is a near by lake this theory might seem like science fiction now but do we really know what is happening on the space station or those secret satellites in space?
The sonar frequency produced in the Naval experiments specifically targeted the mammals of the sea. Not only whales, but dolphins as well. Huge kills off California. I met a brudda in Hawai'i who had just resigned from the Navy because they were doing these tests and he couldn't participate because of his native belief in the oneness of all life on earth. I honored his service, even more than the poor warriors who continue to fight and kill for no good reason.
in Arkansas the birds apparently fell out of the sky but also note the river in the same area the fish also died almost right under the area the birds died
The bird fall was in Beebe, the fish died near Ozark. They may be related, they may not - but those two towns are about 125 miles apart.
How about that specific breed of fish is something of tastiness for those birds. On their way south, they swoop down, eat the fish that are ill with something and then birds 125mi later, start feeling the effects of said illness caught from the fish they consumed.
I think it sounds pretty darned logical. And the fall from the sky is what broke necks and caused internal trauma.
@ Mark- The fireworks don't explain the one breed of fish dying... However, one type of fish can die from a disease while another can simply be a carrier.
Kind of like say... Color blindness. Women can be a carrier and pass it on to a son. Or sickle cell anemia. Or Rhumatoid Arthritis.
a certain species of fish, a certain species of bird, funny that only blackbirds got spooked and no other species, and are fireworkes set off near marshlands where these birds prefer to roost? then more in louisiana, same species but no fireworks this time. you would think something parasitic would be involved for it to be targeted to a certain type of bird, toxins can pretty much be ruled out unless it was specifically engineered.
Flocks are generally composed of the same species of bird all in very close proximity to each other. Grackles and cowbirds might mix in with a flock of red-wing blackbirds, but they are not roosting when they are flocking together.
Would this now be called area 52, area 53 and now area 54??
If it were toxins in the air or chemicals in the air and water, why is there only a "few" birds of the flock and fish in the water killed? You would think that if the whole flock flew through the same air ALL of the flocks would be dead. They all breath the same air not just the red-wing black birds. Where are the dead sparrows and dead pigeons? Where is the dead Carp and dead Panfish and dead Catfish???
I was actually considering a dimensional breach sent in a cloaked Carrack-Class Light Cruiser from the Star Wars Galaxy, but now that I consider it, your explanation makes perfect sense. Birds of Prey scouting out potential strike vectors for the inevitable Romulan occupation. Either that or they were about to stop and ask for directions.
Natural? Millions of birds flying around every day....maybe billions of them. All of a sudden large groups of them falling dead. Never happens like this but you call it natural? What are you afraid of?
Slow news day on the science desk because Gore is settling into his multi-million dollar cliff side retreat in California! Needed something to fill the empty page space around the ads!
Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon. The U.S. Geological Service's website listed about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June through Dec. 12.
Right and when you compare the last 6 months to all of history it explains nothing.I don't remember ever reading about these deaths in the past.I would think that pollution or a virus was to blame but that should be easy to detect.Maybe it is a Muslim thing. They could hate animals as much as people
The Mayans were right. The end will come in 2012.
cue music....the twilight zone...do do do do....do do do do....
Does anyone think it MIGHT have to do with those "funny" clouds that they are spraying in the sky? Hmmmmm. Check out chemtrails, organite and cloudbusters on YouTube. What is next is US!
Not Toxins Kil birbs easily that we dont smell or taste.
Frying pans with Teflon when new will kill birds the cant get oxgen andchoke,fact,
Rotenone that kills fish in Rivers used by States and farmers Kills birds as well.The related fish Kill cae first then birds leaving a simmation toxic chemical like rotenone acan and will kill tosands millions of fish quickly and in 3 days leave no trase as Most Biologist know but not admit publiaclly.Birds like red wings are relular swamp ,river birds possibly drinking this toxic soup and are very likely affected and ly of soon to die 1-2 days leaving flocks sprad across southern USA.
Birds are being eradicated daily by all Nations ,car bump them our toxic run offs kill them,many pesticides kill them from lawn sprays.
US Governmet has secretly removed destroyed millions of birds near airports and ther near by sanctuarys due to our deopendancy on travel.
Rather vthan build large airports outside of very well know fly ways we eliminate the birds .
Racheal carsons silent spring?
Huge flocks of bird freak out all the time. Every year I have a tree in the yard that yields berries that attract 100s of birds. When something freaks them out they fly into each other, windows, the tree trunk. 1000s of dead bird ... well I don't know. obama, y2k, global warming, el nino, tea bag party ... who knows
Let's see there were 90 massive bird kills in 6 months last year.
Are we going to hear about every one for the next 6 months?
Half way through the article, they finally mention, after several days of hand waving and panic, that bird die offs are not that abnormal. Then why all the sensationalism? I am getting a bit tired of the "it bleeds it leads" philosophy with modern news. Causing panic to get more hits is not the point of journalism.
Birds have no much of a brain, they made bad decisions. Evolve or die.
Mr James D Swanson,
"Racheal carsons silent spring?"
No Rachel Carson - Lunatic Environmentalist Wack Job who is responsible for the deaths of millions of people in Third World countries from her lapped up propaganda.
This is freakin hilarious! You get a few dead birds in the US and now every dead bird or animal, around the world, that dies in numbers of more than 5 are part of some great mysterious conspiracy. People really need to get a life. Animals die in large numbers all the time. Next thing you'll be telling me is the Ailwife die-off in the great lakes is caused by some government experiment.
Massive, do you have a large flagpole that they are flying into after they nibble on your berries?
Mr James D Swanson -
It is really hard to read and follow your post. Can you rewrite using standard English?
I thought it was just me. Thank you Becca for curing my momentary anxiety.
Also, the government is not "secretly" killing birds at airports....they do it quite publicly, and for good reason.
Becca, that's what happens when you don't pay attention in grammar class.
We had a large bird die off on the Coromandel Peninsula here in New Zealand as well. do do do do, do do do do (Twilight Zone theme song)
"Iraq has WMDs"
"The fundamentals of the economy are strong"
"WTC building 7 imploded symmetrically due to fire"
"Fireworks killed the birds."
These occurrences have a very similar feel to other events in which people had no idea how to interpret them initially.
Remember when gay men started dropping dead in New York in the 80s and they blamed it on the flu?
I would like to report that I recently disposed of a dead sparrow in my back yard here in Indiana. A coincidence? I have my doubts.
Slow news day I guess. Thank goodness they only caught 3 of them or we'd be reading about this every day.
It happens all the time. The term "bird brain" wasn't made by accident. I've had several fly into the grill of my vehicle over the years, dozens have flown into the glass windows at my parents home and died, and when flying in flocks, one bad move usually prompts the entire flock to mock the same move right along with it.
Lots of animals, birds, fish, use the magnetic waves to navigate.
If one wanted to go conspiracy theorist about this you could look at 2012 as a possible source. Supposedly the conjunction of our planet and the galactic center of the Milky Way could possibly switch our magnetic poles. I believe we also will experience a solar maximum. Sage brush and Christians could spontaneously combust.
I would imagine that would wreak havoc on birds, fish, whales, and planes, GPS systems, satellites.
Wait for mass satellite kill off! Communication satellites fall from the sky!
the birds are the canary in the coal mine - the end is near!
We are finally getting revenge for all the crap on our cars. Birds are gross.
Birds die in thousands:
Plain and simple. The South does not have extreme weather in the freezing digits at this time of the year. This year is unusual because the lower digits predominate.
Birds fly South in the Fall and Winter, so they can bask in the warmth and live. "Snowbirds", just like humans. That is how they have survived in the past years.
Al Gore was correct. Global Warming. Do the Birds believe that now?
Anybody check on the status of the earth's magnetic poles? They've been about to flip at any time. It's a possibility, that is how they and other creatures (fish, for one) navigate.
what could obama be up to? testing chemical weapons on birds?
Chicken Little: 'The sky is falling!' (No, those are birds are falling from the sky and dead fish in the waterways!) Let's face it we've mucked up Mother Earth, and disease is rampant.
But could it be as simple an explanation as H5N1---Avian flu, and one related to Influenza A in humans?
becca, YOU DO REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ILLNESSES THAT MAY IMPAIR THEIR SPEECH AS WELL AS THEIR ABILITY TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES PROPERLY IN THEIR WRITING?
that was nasty and thoughtless... hopefully you wont develope parkinsons or something....
who cares what this person believes? some people only have the net to interact with others from, and there are a million different points of view... OK I'M DONE PREACHING...
Yes, it is FAR more likely that President Obama took charge of chemical weapons testing personnaly and gave specific instructions on the release said weapons to effect the deaths of thousands of birds all over the world....riiiiiiight.
Why hasn't the World Health Orgnaization (WHO) and/or the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) stepped up to the plate and given a plausible explanation for this anamoly?
It might be as simple as H5N1, or the Avian Flu, and appropriate steps taken to ward off the spread of Influenza A among humans.
How about the commercial airplanes dropping contents of their waste tanks in mid air? Sh..t is coming down in big frozen chunks hitting flocks of birds. That would also explain birds with their air passages infected by E.coli.
LOL That made me laugh.
Remember the big tsunami? In the most seriously affected areas, only those who took cues from animals were able to survive. If humans ignore other species, we will not survive. One way or another, we won't survive. Just look at the mess around us and, if that doesn't convince you, read some of these comments. Happy New Year.
While it does seem like these kinds of things have been happening frequently of late, it's still a little early to dust off the conspiracy theories. It's likely just due to more reporting of the incidents, like with the "rash" of shark attacks for last couple of summers.
I know.........Its the alien spacecraft with their cloaking devices on so us and the birds can't see em....remember they died of blunt force trauma... this is gotta be whats going on.....now I'm gonna go smoke another one and see if I can't get to the bottom of this........YeeeeeeeeeHAAAAAAAAAAA
Blackbird pie anyone?
Sing a song of sixpence a pocket full of rye,
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened the birds began to sing,
Oh wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the king?
The king was in his counting house counting out his money,
The queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey
The maid was in the garden hanging out the clothes,
When down came a blackbird and pecked off her nose!
For once I agree with Waterdog. Animals have better instincts than we humans.
Whoever said "birds are gross" (above) Grow up. I own birds and we make bigger messes than they do.
If humans ignore other species, we will not survive
Yeah, let's all follow the animals. Follow that group of lemmings right off the cliff! Follow that bird at top speed right into the window or screen door of a house!
Right. Absolutely brilliant. While animals sometimes have better instincts than humans do, only a fool would just blindly follow an animal's lead without bothering to think about it first.
Some of you really crack me up. You are soooooo quick to jump to conclusions when they are barely started on forensic tests. I hate to tell you this, but real life isn't like an episode of CSI, where the answer is available in an hour. Forensics takes time.
How about giving them some time to actually get some results from the tests huh?
The "Officials" say it was most likely from the "Fireworks" on New Years Eve. But if it was "Fireworks" you would have this happen pretty much every year on the 4th of July, Christmas and New Years Eve.
But I do not remember seeing any thing like this on a regular basis around those dates. If it was fireworks, there would be a steady stream of these reports each year on at least 2 dates if not more.
My Dad always talks about the Chem-trails and I've always thought he is losing it! saying things like "don't go outside because their putting that @!$%#e in the sky again" or "dang government is putting them dang Chem-trialsagain" I am now starting to believe him!
But...the end of 'what'? I thought Mayans 'said' 2000 was the 'doom year'.
In 1999, several thousand grackles fell from the sky and staggered about before dying in north Louisiana. It took five months to get the diagnosis: an E. coli infection of the air sacs in their skulls.
Horse hockey
An e coli infection affecting several thousand birds all at the same time they get sick hit the ground and die? Who write this crap.
John Wheeler was found murdered this week. A founder of the Viet Nam memorial and former US military officer, he wrote and studied the effects of chemical and biological weapons for the military. Prior to his murder he worked for Mitre Corp. a company involved in creating aerosol spraying equipment for airplanes.
Pine Bluff Arkansas has massive stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, most recently at the arsenal approximately 63 mertic tons of phosgene gas, one of the most feared chemical weapons ever created, was buried deeply in the soil at Pine Bluff.
Additonally, a plane carrying Iranian phosgene gas (western governments have forbidden its manufacture) was enroute from America to Afghanistan and reports were that it's spraying equipment had malfunctioned.
Military individuals in hazmat suits were seen cleaning up the dead bird in Arkansas, interestingly enough, the internal damages seen in the necropsied birds was consistent with phosgene poisoning. Wheeler was leaving Delaware enroute to DC when he was seen acting disoriented, and confused, one witness reported that he was standing by his car with no coat and holding one shoe. Shortly afterwards his body was discovered in a dumpster and in a nearby dumpster vinyl gloves of the sort used by forensic investigators was found in a nearby dumpster.
http//www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-official-murdered-after-arkansas-weapons-test-causes-mass-death/
Tragically, many of America's so ignorant and stupid rednecks and human garbage find this amusing. The more the individual comprehends the science of ecology and how the Earth functions to support and sustain man's very existence, the less the chortles and the amusement. And, anyone who believes the suffering and misery of helpless animals is amusing and hee haw time, teeters on the edge of psychopathology. In pure language, you are no more human than Jeffrey Dahmer or any other psycho.
The Earth's birds, right along with amphibians and lizards, are the Earth's pest controller and human disease checks and balances. If you think this eco-tragedy is ha ha time, then you just love the bird flu pandemic, the worst pandemic in history, and the plague. Hee Haw.
And, Silent Spring spells the death of man, duhhhh
Now, all together, psychos, chortle, hee haw, dudes.
Mygirl one, I definitely believe that the Government is hiding something from us! Who knows what they are up to?
o brother
mygirl, that's all very interesting. but how do you know those things? what's the source? can you post a link, please? we can't very well evaluate your information without knowing the source.
Excuse my typos...Iraqui not Iranian phosgene gas also, he was leaving DC heading back to Delaware...I included the link at bottom of first posting but first got info from Huffington Post article on Wheeler after reading the comments. Sadly, I am not a computer maven but please check for yourselve via Huffpost today, Wheeler article also look up EU Times
Not for nothing, just to add to the conversation, there was a man attacked by a “unkillable” cow on New Years Day. The cow was shot in the face several times, and the man’s wife rammed the “unkillable” cow with a truck several times. Coincidence??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40911185/ns/us_news-weird_news/
Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon. The U.S. Geological Service's website listed about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June through Dec. 12.
This little factoid doesn't matter, the media will continue to scour the globe for dead birds because they know they can count on all the clicks from all the conspiracy theorists eating it all up, as well as the rational, intelligent people who try to talk sense into them. Those clicks are worth their weight in gold when the news organizations try to attract paying advertisers.
Since the Mayans (who couldn't even sustain their own existence) figure that things are not looking good for 2012, what are these birds falling from the sky a year ahead of time. Are they the 'early birds"????
have you heard of polor shift , its happening and there is nothing we as a species can do but hold on !
Kristofer......... Obama.. hahahaha... I love how everyone blames him first... lol.. I am not a supporter of his but it makes me laugh at how quickly they blame.. or maybe not... has anyone else made the corralation to:
Black Birds and bottom feeding fish??? LOL...LOL...LOL... Maybe it is the KKK that is setting up Obama!! Too funny people!
It is a whole new world and with that comes news stories we are not used to. Lets see some articles on the UFO's in Arizona? Maybe they have something to do with it?! Birds getting scared and having panic attacks... better then if people were to see the UFO's can you imagine how many would have gone crazy??
Even if a plane WAS carrying the gas from America to Afghanistan (which I doubt is very likely) it would NOT have been transported in the type of jet plane that was set up for spraying. That's absolutely ridiculous! It would be transported in a secure transport type plane, not a combat jet with spraying equipment.
And even IF in the very unlikely event it was being transported in that type of plane, they would have the spray jets disengaged and the nozzles capped to prevent that type of malfunction. Pilots and their crews have a very strict checklist procedure, even more so in the military.
Now unless you are going to tell me it was deliberate on the part of the US government or military, your theory is misguided at best, idiotic at worst.
@Becca R
I'm with you Becca, it was like reading one of those spam emails you get where the sentences are just a bunch of random words or phrases stuck together to try and fool the spam blockers.
I don't care what your problem is. This is an English speaking forum. And I'm not being racist or insensitive, but if you are participating in an English speaking forum, you need to have the basic skills to participate. Otherwise, just sit back and read or get someone to help you translate and/or type your message for you!!!!
Occasional typos are okay, everyone makes them, but when your message appears to be in some kind of code, it's time for some English or typing lessons.
No! according to a religious group the world supposed to end May 23rd of 2011!
skor154,
You know, maybe if you weren't such an insulting individual people might take you more seriously. Insults and a condescending attitude do nothing but show your own inability to converse in an intelligent and mature manner.
I realize that probably means little to you, but it should. Unless of course, the only real reason you make your posts is to insult others. Which does appear to be your usual method of commenting from what I've seen.
"stupid rednecks and human garbage"? Really?
Try polite, rational commentary and leave the insults and condescension to the kids in school.
skor, haha, you weenie! you realize that the production of your latte, your black beret, leather vest and uggs all probably contributed to the death of thousands of plants and animals. the only answer is for you to strip naked and go live in cave, surviving on moss. hypocrite.
I have to agree with what someone said earlier. I am fairly certain this happens every year all over the place. For some reason the Arkansas article generated lot of interest so now the media is focusing on all of these events on purpose.
They're shameless hussies that will do anything for attention.
Got to say,, Chemtrails are looking more & more like the problem... Mygirl1 is on to it!!! And, without going into a lot of detail, here, may I suggest there are a lot of loose ends out there that need to be (and will be) tied together.
DevAvo,
Guess you never really worked with the USAF before.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566797/Nuclear-missiles-mistakenly-flown-across-US.html
They are in underground storage magazines made of steel reinforced concrete, not buried directly into the soil. Last year (2010) someone leaked the actual blueprints (Planographs) of the Pine Bluff Arkansas underground storage facility.
Birds have a much more well developed blood circulatory system than most humans do. Go Figure.
Birds hear in ranges of pitches differently than Humans do too.
David: I excused my self for the earlier misquotes. The Pine Bluff munitions facility in Arkansas is a repository for chemical and biological weapons, when I stated buried I meant underground, not like digging a hole in the soil and dumping the stuff in.
I just find it odd that Wheeler's mysteriously found dead during the time of the massive and as yet unexplained bird and fish deaths, especially considering his background in biological and chemical warfare agents and his work with Mitre. I am not naive, nor do I hold to conspiracy theories although history has shown that some of those theories were in fact true.
It makes more sense than 'fireworks' or birds colliding into each other...watch a flock of birds coordinate with one another, same as a school of fish, they move as one. Then look at the timeline. I will keep an open mind, perhaps there is a more 'natural' explanation, but the military and certain government agencies have been known to screw up, or act in a less than responsible manner? Remember DDT being sprayed like water over people? Remember the atomic bomb tests where they placed soldiers in the area where the bombs were exploded? Or how about the test subjects given LSD?
Just think back to why coal miners used to take a canary down into the mines with them!!!!!
"Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon...."
I see. The truth squad of our government is busily at it, once again. The fact that every mass bird death reported here occurred within the past 12 months.
So that makes them "common"?
Careful people, "change" is in the air.
The "end of days" folks will have fun with all this feathered and finned deaths. They remind me on their less-than- educated anestors during the Middle Ages.
Anyone seen an old crone to burn? That happened when wells ran dry, or cows suddenly stopped giving milk, or the sky revealed strange portends.....
s-1716322
Yes I do know that some people may have issues typing because of some illness or disease. I also realize that most of those people would at least attempt to make their response legible. They are more aware of their issues with typing and so they would probably use the backspace button and correct their typos.
Most of the people who make comments that have lots of typos and make no sense don't care if people can read their comment, or just cant figure out how to use spellcheck.
If I did get parkinsons or something that made it difficult to type then I would probably not type such long responses and use the backspace alot. I can also hit the spellcheck button and it would automatically fix most of those errors.
....or a missile contrail suddenly appears of the coast of California, never fully explained! ... shall we say covered up?
Its a cloaked satellite testing a DNA ray gun worldwide. The only thing that can stop it is tinfoil - the non-stick kind though.
No, it's not the end yet. These are signs of distress due to the constant destruction of the earth's enviroment. When the end comes, it will not be the end of our planet earth, but the end of modern human society. When this happens then the earth will start to heal itself.
They ran into invisible alien spacecraft coming to invade the planet!!!!!!!!! Oh no!!!!!!1
@ jimmyshark:
Haaaaaaaaa! lmao...lolololol :cD)))))
@Honestly
You do realize I was making fun of some else's comment right?
Hold on, everybody! Skor154 wants us all to join hands and sing Kumbaya!
Coming home last night in the dark here in Texas two birds were flying sporadically and almost ran into my windshield. They were flying so oddly that I thought they were bats at first. It was as if their navigational system was messed up in the dark. I have never experienced something so odd like that before at night with birds.
I had a nest of wasps this summer that was humungous. I have never seen anything like it. I have noticed nature freaking out for several years now. I can sense nature’s uneasiness. A lot more attacks on humans from wildlife these days, too.
I definitely believe the earth is cycling out. The earth is changing physically and whether it is globally weather related, or not. I believe the earth is doing what it is supposed to be doing. I believe the earth has done this before. Some scientists think several times. Something is ^.
Interesting, are you talking climate change or a change in the magnetic field? The latter would be a bit more frightening (from a human standpoint), the former we can deal with (as in adapt to, not fix).
Just last week an owl flew into my windshield on my way to work. Wonder if it's related??.....
That doesn't seem that unusual, it does happen every now n then. Now if like half an hour later a HAWK hit your windshield, THEN i would freak out lol :-)
My neighbor's dog has always pissed on my front left tire. Now he is pissing on the front right. Coincidence? I think not!
This past weekend a gecko walked up to me to sell me car insurance. Later I found myself on my kitchen floor and felt like a train had hit me. When I got up I found an empty vodka bottle and an advertisement for Geico Insurance lying on the floor where I was. This was on New Years Day and for the life of me, I can't figure out where that gecko came from!?
Oh well, must be a sign of the 'end times'.
Jimmyshark, I almost spit my coffee out on that one. Funny.
Trust your media and government. Ignorance is bliss.
I think this is all a bit weird...a sign of a change maybe...who knows but weird nonetheless
Birds rely on navigation via the magnetic field. If that is changing, we'll start experiencing all sorts of issues. However, I'm not sure how a changing magnetic field would affect 100,000 fish, so I'm guessing that isn't the cause. It could just be a freak accident, like spontaneous combustion.
Being an avid conspiracy theorist, I should probably start one.
Wikileaks, Sweden, Religion, lewd conduct? Yep , it explains it all.
God wants us to know that women in Sweden should become Christian.
Highly likely that the dead birds all fell out of Anna Arden's crotch. This of course fueling suspicion that STDs actually caused the pandemonium.
Wikileaks must be unleashing it's mind control quantum-theoretic aviary minimalist genocide software.
:o)
Funny thing, I recently pointed out to some eco buds that large flocks of waterbirds, primarily White Ibis,Egret and Herons must have changed their "feeding grounds"..instead of flying home to roost in an East to West direction over the river..they now fly right up our canal heading South to North until they reach the river and then head West..i've been watching them for 10 years..this is a relatively new direction for their feeding grounds and nighty roost returns??? I'm just sayin'..??
@ BVernia
They follow the sweet krill. No mystery there.
CollaredCrow,
Birds do use the magnetic poles for long range migrations (little ions in their brains line up) but they do have eyes for short range navigation. I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with the electromagnetic field.
Back in the latter half of the 70's here on my street, there was a "mass die off" of starlings and martins. They hit a set of high voltage power lines running through a yard. I was there and nearly got hit with falling birds. It was more like a very slow rain of birds. it happened at late dusk and dark. Not during the daylight hours. Theority of the flock flew through the lines and a small percentage hit them. Law of averages.
Only the Cockroaches and the Republicans will survive!!! (OOPS!! ~ Same thing!!!)
Sorry about the misspelling. It was supposed to be: The majority of the flock flew through the lines and a small percentage hit them. Most you are talking through your hat. You have not personally been there. Get a life.
Magnetic poles switching... Yeah right. You do realize that process takes centuries, and we're actually in the middle of it already. It's so gradual that odds are no single generation of birds will be at all confused. Our compasses may become less useful for the middle period, though. Oh, and tell your grandchildren to stock up on sun-tan lotion. A weaker geomagnetic field means more solar radiation will be making it through.
Arbuckle Doc,
Hot damn! That means we will only have the cockroaches to deal with and not the lefties! The cockroaches at least wont raise our taxes and pilfer our paychecks!
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
@ k`frill
@Chris- thanks for pointing that out. I meant the magnetic poles shifting, not the magnetic sphere.
Some interesting thoughts. We read about these massive bird die offs and wonder why. Some have speculated on a problem with their internal navigational instinct which is directly correlated to the earth's magnetic field. A field that is controlled by the movement of magma in the earth's core. We are also seeing large amounts of active volcanic activity in the world. This has an impact on the earth's magnetic field as well. The Global warming crowd points to the loss of glacial mass and sea ice as sure indicators of global warming which is technically correct, however the conclusion that it is a man driven problem becomes a stretch considering the recent surge in volcanic activity both above and undersea in polar areas. Remember that mountainous regions are areas of great seismic activity prone quite often to volcanic activity. If the earth's going through changes due to gravitational shift, or a heating up of the core and forcing magma ever closer to the surface at a number of locations, this in and of itself could be the cause of global warming and climate shift. The effect this has on evolved animals would be more apparent than it's effect on human beings as we are less dependent on natural forces than animals are for our survival.
Hot damn! That means we will only have the cockroaches to deal with and not the lefties! The cockroaches at least wont raise our taxes and pilfer our paychecks!
No lefty's then who is gonna do the work while you repubs sit on you fat behinds doing nothing but trying to figure out tour next swindle.
Yes, Nicole, many top scientists in the world are screaming, they have "no analogues" for the unnatural changes occurring all over the Earth's life giving ecosystems. According to science, man is "suicidal" when he kills ecosystems, and the birds featured in this article are biodiversity, the animals and birds that create, service, sustain and maintain the Earth's very ecosystems, all the reasons mankind is alive.
Your experience with the birds flying around like bats in front of your vehicle and at night sounds more like an encounter with Night Hawks. They are very common here in Texas and they like to sit in the roadway until a vehicle is almost on top of them before they will move. The Night Hawks will then fly around and manuever just like bats searching for bugs in the headlights. I call them suicide birds and they are unsettling and annoying.
In town I recently saw a strange man wearing one of those sandwich board signs that read, "The end of the world is coming!" Is this just a coincidence, since I live 2000 miles away from the bird droppings? I think not.
Later I observed our 3 cats and dog huddled in the corner communing with each other, when I came into the room they all separated and pretended nothing was going on. They keep giving me these weird glances. My wife thinks I'm crazy, but it's usually the non-believers that are the first to go.
I'm be sleeping with one eye open for awhile.
Yup no lefties! What a sweet sweet world it would be! And this goes to show you that nature is not fair. If it were the birds would still be alive and the unions would be dropping over dead! (and yes, I value an animals life as more important than a liberals, I will brake for an animal! Liberals just need to run faster!)
Wonder if the Earth's magnetic poles are getting ready to flip...there is evidence in past samplings of deep ocean cores that this happens periodically....since birds are more sensitive to the magnetic field they would be one of the first species affected.
@HATCHET101
they said the same thing about a neutron bomb.
Irene Year,,,, You may be on to something... Your speculation or theory is the most plausible IMO... check it out.
Relax, every once in a while nature goes wild. Hoards of locusts, towns overrun by frogs, red tides, whales and dolfins beaching themselves. This year has been quite unseasonal, which could just a random effect or cause by some brief, or progressive anomoly.
Mayans I recall predicted worldwide floods, major eartquakes and a shift in the polarity of the Earth just to name a few of their predictions. So far floods have affected Pakistan, parts of Europe, Australia and earthquakes, Indonesia, Haiti, Chile, Southern Pacific etc........As for the birds' behaviour, perhaps the Earth's magnetic field is really changing and they as a result are experiencing difficulties with their in-built compass and sense of direction. At the end exhausted, they fall down to the earth, dead.
wtw, no offense but the mayans couldnt predict their own cultural demise.and why take advice from a culture that intentionally walked around cross eyed? and those boards strapped to babies heads to mishape them had to cause brain damage. how could anyone take predictions from such a backward culture seriously.
besides, we all know the catastrophies youve mentioned have been deliberately caused by aliens anally probing the earth.
aunty
@Brokinarrow I was just reading the other day that scientists are concerned because our magnetosphere is weakening. Maybe the birds are getting more solar radiation and that's what's killing them.
Does Halliburton have any facilities in Sweeden?
Maybe or maybe it's HARRP....they are everywhere and all government officals are corrupt...ALL OF THEM! The new media will say anything "they" tell them to say. Ecoli now? Where in the heck would birds get ecoli? Did they eat the salad at a mcdonalds? Next they will say it's anthrax and hurd us all up.....better watch out everyone....!
HAARP is very possible, Indigogal, but we will never know (unless Mr. Assange can get hold of the data and disseminate it). Also, Mr. Swanson's post above, hard to read as it was, has a plausible explanation as well. Whether certain pesticides have been banned or not, farmers, who used them and had faith in them, will cache them and continue to use them. It all comes to a boil and we lose a part of our life on earth. It is very sad. I have so enjoyed seeing red-wing blackbirds here in Georgia (for the first time in my life, as they are not around Santa Monica). I hope they were not the crew that comes to visit us in the spring.
Yes, the US is playing with their death ray (HAARP).
zzzjacoby banned, constantly off-topic, threatening to kill other Viners.
Thank you tyler!
Yes, Tyler. Thank you. He was getting to be a little aggravating.
Definately curious. They certainly will find something. However the question still remains why? If we start to see mammals dropping run for the hills.
we .... are ... mammals
It's the trees, they're fighting back XD
LMAO! WORST MOVIE EVER!!!! But....my husband and I were joking about the same thing last night....maybe M. Night Shamalamadingdong was right after all! BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
If I start seeing mammals dropping from the sky (other than a few squirrels missing a branch) I'm definitely going to start being suspicious.
Mike that is funny---I just logged on to laugh---love these comments. I have no idea what is going on but all the wildlife is acting normal here. I live along Lake Erie-----everything is fine, beautiful day! maybe the aliens don't like snow and water...thats all I see.
Stangsallie...hehe...I always refer to him as Shamalamadingdong too!! LOL
And, other than having huge Monarch Butterflies flying around our back yard at night this past summer..we haven't seen anything strange here in Southeastern New England either.
It is all concerning...but I won't don the helmet until I see birds falling from the sky here.
As long as those mammals, dropping from the sky, have parachutes, I'm cool with it.
I've been seeing humans behaving erratically around here lately.. Oh wait that's normal in New Jersey. Other than that no change.
Hahaha!!! Joisey!!
Any Snookie Sightings?? That is scary in and of itself!!
So the alligators and raccoons down in Florida, although now we have damn pythons too, but no one is dropping from the sky (we have no hills).
We tried scaring Snookie away with the fireworks since it worked with the birds. Not sure if it worked yet.
Snookie has just been sighted in a bar, Tony. Pretty weird, eh?
LOL
@StangSalie
Shamalamadingdong
That is so funny, that is exactly what my wife and I call M. Night Shyamalan, we can never pronounce his name.
Yes we tried scaring Snookie from her roost (The Bar). We may need a bigger explosive.
Here in CA I've noted that a bunch of tree huggers started to hug telephone poles.
Actually, the root basis for that movie was based upon the real life defense mechanism of willow trees. Willow trees excrete a mild toxin when attacked/eaten and other willow trees nearby will also begin excreting the same toxin even if those trees aren't being attacked/eaten. It's a really interresting and rare natural defense mechanism. Of course, the toxin is far too mild to be harmful to humans, but it's powerful enough to send certain insects scurrying on to other more palletable greenery.
Regardless of the scientific premise behind it.....that was still the absolute worst movie I have ever seen. I felt like I had lost 2 hours of my life I would never get back.
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one that calls him Shamalamadingdong! I still don't know how to pronounce his name correctly....and I'm okay with it. :)
Yes that movie was terrible. I enjoyed Signs though. I admit I am one of the admitted few. Maybe it was Joaquin Phoenix that made me enjoy it...had a crush on him for years...haha. Oh and Abigail Breslin was pretty darn cute in that.."There's a monster in my room..can I have a glass of water?" Lol
I'm right there with ya....I loved Signs. He's had some good ones.....I'm hoping he was high when he decided to make The Happening....that is the only reasonable explanation to me!
I know right? Haha He had to be smokin something good! I like that he does cameos in his movies too. Did you see Devil??
Not yet...we're still gunshy after Happening so we're waiting for it to show up on Netflix...that way no extra money wasted if it sucks :)
I hear ya...we are doing the same thing..lol
Since when do five birds of different feathers flock together? At night, no less! And I'm no veterinarian, but do you suppose the physical trauma, contusions and such, might have resulted from them falling from the sky? There is little doubt we are killing our own planet. Are we too late to save it? Do enough of us even care?
It's called climate change, it happens all the time, and the planet WILL go on just fine with or without us.
@Brokinarrow - What does climate change have to do with birds falling out of the sky? Or fish dying in a lake nearby? Birds instinctually know how to fly together in large groups without ever crashing into each other. Thousands of fish don't die simultaneously of natural causes. Regardless, I believe you are only half correct in your assertion about the planet going on just fine with or without us. I think it would, sadly, be better off without us because we are working just as hard and fast as we can to kill it.
@John-2412130
I just wanted to point out a few things. Mass deaths do occur often naturally. A good lightning strike to a lake can easily kill thousands of fish, though 100,000 is quite a few, and I doubt lightning is the culprit here. Anyhow, I feel they are trying to cover up how the birds died. Fireworks? Puh-lease. Fireworks don't kill thousands of birds simultaneously. And the notion that they all ran into something, thus resulting in their deaths, is also irrelevant, as some birds happened to drop in open fields. Nothing to hit there. I don't know whats going on. Hopefully with time our questions will be answered.
The fish died in a river not a lake. Itoo am familiar with reports of lightning strikes to ponds and lakes however those incidents killed more than just one species of fish when they occurred. I feel that there is something yet to be discovered about these deaths that will lead to some sort of natural phenomena similar to some sort of toxin released from the planet under the river bed. Just a theory.
John, what do you think the Space Program is all about, anyway??? ~ They're looking for another planet for us to screw up, because, this one will soon be unable to support Human Life!!! ~ Mankind is about to migrate!!! ~ It's really quite simple!!! ~ Once man is done with this planet, he can move on to another, and another, like a virus spreading across the Universe!!! ~ Awesome concept, huh???
Climate change has everything to do with this type of event. When people think of climate they tend to only think about weather conditions but climate is actually a bit more encompassing. Stronger weather systems generated by conditions in the earth's atmosphere and magnetic field, increased volcanic activity, especially in areas that have long sat dormant, increases in earthquakes, increased numbers of lightning strikes all this has to do with the climate. Even the changes that occur to the earth's surface do to volcanic activity and earthquakes have a bearing on climate. Changes to the height or size of mountains affect wind velocities and patterns which can focus or diffuse normal weather pattern severity in an area. Millions of tons of volcanic ash dumped into the atmosphere by volcanic eruptions can create a denser shield against ultra violet radiation which warms the planet changing temperature patterns to a region. Ash strewn across land that was once fertile can have an effect on the amount of oxygen that green plants regenerate in an area which impacts temperature, rain fall, and the like. The Scientists are so busy looking for a simple root cause to point the finger at that they are missing the bigger picture, that everything and I do mean EVERYTHING is interconnected and has an impact on each other. Man dumping tons of pollutants in the air does have an effect, but is it really man that is the real culprit or is it just the earth doing what the earth normally does and change because of forces over which we have no control?
Where's my Nuke the Antarctic T-Shirt? Damnit, always behind the popular opinion instead of ahead of it. Such is my luck.
Archangel, according to the science of ecology and the ecology of our ecosystem dependent Earth, man is only alive because of the Earth's ecosystems, and ecosystems are only alive because of the richness of their biodiversity. The red-winged blackbirds are biodiversity.
Everything modern man does, kills ecosystems. Modern man is in the business of paving, plowing, bulldozing, polluting, draining, chain sawing and concreting the real, natural surface of the Earth or ecosystems. Population losses and the extinctions of biodiversity destabilizes, weakens and kills ecosystems.
An ecosystem is one living organism, given life and function because of its wealth of animal and plant/tree biological diversity. If the landscape is natural, god-created or wild, rich with native animals and plants, it is an ecosystem.
Ecosystems are in the eco-nomics of all life, from the very atmosphere, the climate, sequesteration of C02 [many eco-scientists maintain the Earth is losing the ability to sequester C02!], the nitrogen cycle, the entirety of the Earth's biogeochemistry and the regulation and checking of deadly disease pathogens that cause man's pandemics, like the 1918 bird flu, the worst pandemic in history.
Frogs have been cited as an agent of the regulation of disease pathogens, but I would suspect this would also include birds and lizards. Birds are in the eco-nomics of pest control, pollination and seed dispersal. Without seed dispersal, the Earth's terrestrial ecosystems would be no more because of the losses of plant/tree regeneration.
The father of ecology, American Aldo Leopold:
@TheCollaredCrow
NASA's primary mission is to study outer space, to learn the origins of the Universe and how we came into existence. It's goal is NOT to find other planets for human beings to move to en mass. (Maybe a small team to colonize the moon or mars, but not the whole planet) Even if it was, it's technologically impossible to move an entire planet's population to another planet capable of supporting human life. Even in "Star Trek's" time, it was quite the laborious undertaking.
Climate change is definately one of the culprits behind these things. And guess who is BEHIND "climate change"?? The one's covering our skies with fake "clouds" full of barium, aluminum, dessicated human blood cells, and Lord knows what else. The one's poisoning our water supply with industrial waste (sodium flouride/rat poison) and telling us it's GOOD for us....The one's stealing and destroying all the earth's natural resources for PROFIT: Oil, the rain forest, Monsanto GMO crops that deplete soil, etc. The one's who have made us dependent on oil when Nikola Tesla invented an alternative that would have made us FREE from government energy dependency, but his invention was suppressed and they passed the torch to their puppet Thomas Edison, who was willing to play their phony game. The one's who created nuclear warfare and other sinister methods of biological warfare/terrorism and who constantly "test" these things in our oceans whilst their big corporpate giants constantly drill holes and pour toxins in them to cover up their mess. I could go on and on and on. But anyone with a brain can see what's really happening and who is at fault. It's not the "little people" and the REAL "conspiracy nuts" are the ones who can't see that we are ENGULFED in an ongoing, many faceted conspiracy. These types of deceived dupes are the REASON that the conspirators are able to continue with their sinister schemes.
@DevAvo
Nobody is planning on moving an entire planet's population. If you can't afford the ticket, you're not leaving. Only the richest of the rich will escape what they themselves have caused. Poetic injustice.
Ok i will tell you how the birds died..You see our Government created a device that throws out shock waves not electrical shock..But a shock wave like two cars collide..With this shock wave device it can crush cans and small objects...No doubt it can kill a human by crushing there insides.Isn't Science just lovely..
A concussion device... definitely plausible, they could tune it to different strenghts to use it both as a non-lethal and a lethal weapon. IF that were true, we'll hear about a few years down the road. Of course they'll still deny it was linked to these incidents :)
So, true story. Last night from about 5:00 PM until 9:30 PM or so I felt a continuous oscillating pressure on my ears that while not being very painful was extremely uncomfortable. It felt something like someone constantly hitting me over the ears with their cupped hands. Makes one wonder. Perhaps it really will be a supernatural end times?
It is quite possible you had a seizure or a mild stroke with sustained after effects, you should have that checked out - call a doctor.
Absolutely ... and the US always tests their new super weapons on those pesky Swedish birds ... after all, they are foreigners.
Ah yes, and that mysterious device that emits lethal shock waves through the air would be called..... A BOMB!
Gee and I thought it was an alien space craft passing through Arkansas looking for the chemical weapons repository!
This is strangely similar to the tv show FlashForward. Lots of dead blackbirds at various locations could be related to some scientific testing that we are unaware of. Maybe testing of new power sources?
And now we will never know since ABC cancelled the show. Just kidding around, but I thought the exact same thing when I heard about the first dead birds dropping from the sky.
I wish they hadn't. I liked that show. :(
This actually reminds me of "The Core" when all the brids were freaking out and flying into people and things because the Earth's magnetic field was collapsing.
Does anyone know of any huge power drains in Alaska lately?
All Governments test new technologies without civilian knowledge. They have to know how it works, be it on animals or humans, so it's not new, if testing is the case, to folks who've been around a little while.
Submarine sonar causes whales and dolphins to freak out and lose direction and possibly beach themselves. Some EW aircraft are soooo powerful, they can blackout a city. The Navy's EA6 Prowler is one of those aircraft. - far more awesome than it appear
Raidaz2010 -
Sorry, not the EA6 my friend. I worked on the Electronic Countermeasures in that great aircraft. The radio station near you puts out about 50k times more power than the EA6. Most aircraft do not need to transmit huge amounts of power because they can maintain line of sight to target while they are airborne.
The new airborne chemical lasers currently being developed may be able to do damage to birds, but they are so big they need to be carried on a 747.
Tim
Not only that but these birds were still fresh! if they had been hit by a laser they would have been cooked! LOL
They never did find out the real reason the birds attacked in Hitchcock's "The Birds". Hmmmm....
Good morning world.....there is something going on here, these bird did not die from fireworks or lighting or hail. they were spred across a large area and there is no toxins in them ,but they have trama like they were blasted in the sky.birds navagate by the magnetic poles so look at the ozone and see if there is a bigger hole. People we need to find the reason as stewards of our planet...pay attention to the signs mother earth in trying to warn us of something to come........do not fall to sleep on this!!!!!!!
By then it be to late and we are going to get crushed..Just like those birds..
There will be no stopping this. It was foretold more than a thousand years ago. Before it is ove the earths inhabitants will have had to admit who caused it, and why. But it will be too late.
Maybe a shrink is in order, and not a MD.
Questioning the mainstream gatekeepers means you're crazy. Go back to sleep. Obey. Consume. Watch TV.
Shrinks are MD's. But yes, there is a little bit of delusional thinking going on here. It is very funny --- heh heh heh.
REGINALD, what do you think the Space Program is all about, anyway??? ~ They're looking for another planet for us to screw up, because, this one will soon be unable to support Human Life!!! ~ Mankind is about to migrate!!! ~ It's really quite simple!!! ~ Once man is done with this planet, he can move on to another, and another, and another, just like a virus spreading across the Universe!!! ~ Awesome concept, huh???
Arbuckle Doc,
Great theory, except we don't have anything near the resources or technology for a migration off of Earth. Maybe in a few hundred years........now take your meds.
Here it is in easy term: Rapture was the "Event" only us heathens inhabit this World Now. Do what you like and steal what you want. Criminals are protected and those who are not are persecuted! Let the game begin!
l8te Heathen 2 Verse 1: Pagan ritual is the only thing hopeless people have that, and their God.
Where can I get this book of Heathen?
I have a copy or two you can have its-all-your-fault! Lol
Grampa Simpson: EEEEPA!!! EEEEPA!!!!
(If you don't get it, you haven't seen the movie)
Definitely disturbing news.I too wonder if all that crap they are spraying in the sky might have something to do with it.Sounds like some kind of toxic cloud and/or spill.It might just be time to run for the hills.
Lots of chemtrails in the south this past week.
SO, just how do you tell the difference between a contrail (condensation Trail caused by water vapor from a jet engine condensing in the upper atmosphere) to a chemtrail (chemicals sprayed by aircraft into the upper atmosphere) without going up there and taking a sample?
I can tell you from being at a local airport, seeing the effects on the roofing to the local homes (that the airlines and airport paid to repair and reinforce), and going to school to be an aircraft technician... Aircraft DO jettison shortly before a landing if there's too much fuel. It can and likely will do damage. However, it's not much different then people gassing up their vehicles. You're generally still only getting vapors. Jet fuel is far 'cleaner' than what we breathe in every time we fill up.
Avian Flu!
No, something else I'm thinking. It's not like the birds seem sick. They are just dropping. What's with the internal bleeding? And many different places at once, not just one sick area.
Good Morning Tony!
So...now its Sweden? Should I go buy a helmet yet?
Necropsies were done. There were signs of blunt force trauma, not disease. I'm all for the US testing it's HAARP crap as noted above by Indigogal.
Now, if it is indeed the rapture as our sky god believers are warning, be sure to break into their houses and take their guns and ammo (I know I don't have nearly enough). We will need protection until we can re-establish government.
Good morning Nikita. Full bio suits I'm thinking. lol . Also lets plan a path to fall out shelters. Ya never know.
yeah, the birds in Sweden must have gotten blunt force trauma too, right!
Hey, did y'all see that invisible UFO last night? I bet those birds ran into that.
Wouldn't that blunt force trauma have occurred when hitting the ground?
The blunt force truma was caused by the birds being hit by a VERY LARGE UFO which was traveling at a very high rate of speed. The birds were indeed startled by fireworks but that's not what killed then it was the ufo.
Birds are very, very light. The kind of blunt force trauma they are talking about could not be sustained even if a bird fell to the ground from a great height. Think of a small sack of feathers falling to the ground.
Could it be the chem-trails??? Why doesn't the media report on the chem-trails?
They do exist, but its no different from car exhaust except it comes from airplanes....yeah its not good - but you got a better idea? Sit down, I didn't think so.
because there aren't any facts on that available, just speculation.
Contrails don't linger in the sky for hours, spreading out into large blanket clouds that block out the sun. Contrails dissipate quickly.
Chemtrails are real. Look up.
http://www.asp.bnl.gov/
Maybe we should just let God control the weather....these people are playing a dangerous game trying to control the weather. Their science experiments could endanger all of us. Too bad regular people just don't have a say in anything they do. Legalize weed....then at least I can be high when the end comes.
Get high, anyway; if it's really the end, you won't get busted for it!!! ~ What are you smoking, now??? ~ LOL!!!
sour diesel ....whoo...hoooo.....LOL!
I don't find it strange that birds have impact damage after falling out of the sky. After all, gravity works all the time. What I find strange is the fact that they ARE falling from the sky. And don't give me that stupid answer,"They collided with something." What? If it was an aircraft we certainly would have heard about it. Heck, even ONE blackbird can damage an airplane. And the possibility that they collided with...each other? Gimme a break! Something is fishy here. Just what, who can say without all the data.
The only plausable answer is they were hit by an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Otherwise it simply doesn't make any sense at all.
Move along citizens... nothing for you to see here.
The Ministry of Truth gives you this easy-to-understand explanation. 1. Birds die. 2. Gravity will bring an object to earth. 3. Birds will thus fall to earth when they die.
Go on about your business. The Empire will inform you of any news.
Yes, Dutch.... That is where we are. Let us hope people don't start piling up the same way!!!
I am afraid that is not my task.
Yes, because government conspiracies, cover ups, U.F.Os, aliens, alternate dimensions, end of the world nonsense, etc. make so much more sense. All of you conspiracy theorist really are entertaining to those of us with an I.Q. above that of a turnip. Of course, the government has nothing better to do with its time besides kill birds en masse with secret weapons then sit around and dream up fake explanations for it. Riiiiiiiiigggghht.
I only threw out my UFO theory as a joke (in case you couldn't tell). I don't know what is happening, but it's........interesting. We'll see.
Those with IQ's just above turnips (sheeple?) evidently do not have the sense of humor of us turnips...again...nothing to see here...move along...take your SOMA!
Vince,
Well the government could do a lot of experiments with 2.3 Trillion dollars could they not? If you do a search for Rumsfeld press conference 9/10/01 you will see they somehow LOST 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS.
It's not lost, they just did not want to tell us what they are spending it on.
The UFO Idea is VERY VALID !
The Birds were startled by something, probably fireworks, they flew out of their roost en mass and hit something, it was dark, the object that hit them was low flying and moving yery fast. What do we know of that fly's low, moves very fast when it wants to, and we don't control?
Just critally think about this for a minuet. It has to be something that was very large also, a big UFO is the ONLY reasonable answer!
in the MORNING!
I find your response very calus and arrogant
San Diego, why would any normal person without a personality disorder, i.e., sociopath/psychopath, find this tragic event amusing? Helpless and innocent animals suffering and dying in masse should not be humorous -- unless the individual is afflicted with a personality disorder. The enjoyment of the suffering and deaths of animals is a first indicator of psychopathology of the human mind.
Also, only an idiot would find the losses of biodiversity, a ha ha. Biodiversity creates, services, sustains and maintains the Earth's ecosystems, all the reasons you are alive and breathing.
Have a good one, Turnip.
I think you mean "callous." I also think these articles are much ado about nothing. If scientists say this happens often for a number of reasons, why does MSNBC keep covering it? It's sensationalism and only that.
Many conspiracy theories are based on fact. I agree there are a lot of nut jobs out there (and in here, in this forum) but to automatically dismiss EVERY alternate theory is not being a very good scientist. UFO's may exist, I said MAY, we just don't know. Governments MAY be doing things, very bad things, that we don't know about. There MAY be branches of the government, rich organizations running the world, that we don't know about. You cannot dismiss these things out of hand simply because a bunch of lunatics are acting crazy and making it sound so implausible.
Basically, it's good to keep an open mind to every type of scenario, no matter how far-fetched it may seem.
You sound like a lying scientist and a government supporter!! Let's inject you with some of those dead bird innards!!!
Surely nobody believes that our government/military complex would be anything other than truthful with us?
DevAvo-
Actually, dismissing conspiracy theories is almost always good science because of how they work. They start with a conclusion and work backwards, rationalizing events and shoehorning them into the conspiracy scenario.
Because of that, they become unfalseafiable as any contrary facts can always be explained as part of the conspiracy. Maintaining the conspiracy is paramount. This is why 9/11 truthers, birthers, and others make such insane idosyncratic leaps of logic when explaining conspiracies. They are completely invested in the artifical predetermined conclusion they made up.
That is the complete opposite of formulating a hypothesis, doing empirical tests, and drawing conclusions based on RESULTS. In science, you let the data lead you to the conclusion.
Inevitably conspircay theories all fail Occam's razor and can never produce concrete tangible evidence.
They work backwards because they rely on the natural God given discernment rather than letting Fox News/MSNBC/CNN do their thinking for them. Ordo Ab Chao
Thank you for the information, Dutch. We will return to our normal lives, safe in the knowledge that our benevolent Emperor will have the issue dealt with.
Safety, Security, Justice and Peace! Long live the Empire!
For those who didn't get the joke... Swallow your pride and go watch Star Wars. Thank you.
Lynn D- ?????? What kind of epic garbled non-sequitur of a response is that??? LMAO.
Way to abdicate intellectual honesty and the rigors of inquiry and proof and advocate for "gut feeling". Yep. That's how things get done.
yeah thats the way all citizens should think! who cares lets wait and see if we are told anything. sometimes people caring is the push that is needed to get results!something is going on and we should all be concerned.
What I'm saying is that we need to keep an open mind and go with what seems most logical when the truth is divided between several scenarios.
I'm pretty sure we went to the moon, so I don't believe in that NASA conspiracy bullcrap. Only because I've seen and read evidence that strongly supports the position that we did indeed go to the moon. The conspiracy theories are extremely weak and closed minded. Again the logical assumption for any intelligent person to make is that we did land on the moon, several times.
But with something like the Trilateral Commission or other powerful secret societies, I believe is entirely possible, and I believe their are influences on our president and government that are unseen. Some things are being controlled behind the scenes. Their ultimate goal is power and money.
However if someone shows me some real evidence to counter those beliefs, then I will adjust my way of thinking. My way of thinking is to get to the truth, whether it's in politics or religion (I mean spirituality, since I don't believe in organized religions) I go for whatever seems to be the most likely.
Did God create the Universe in 6 days? Highly unlikely. Is the Earth only a few thousand years old? No, many independent studies of fossils and other evidence (including moon rock samples) tell us that the Earth is millions of years old and the Universe, billions.
So again, whatever seems the most right, logical and truthful in my mind is the way I tend to think.
When police investigate a murder scene, how do they figure out what happened, they look at the evidence and work backward to try and figure out what happened. So apparently the "conspiracy" method of thinking is quite valid.
subterranean volcanic activity: electromagnetically frying the birds navigational systems, heating up river beds and depleting oxygen and food sources for bottom feeding fish. If you go to google maps and enter the following in the search bar you will see a geographic anomaly which I believe is a caldera. the points are the arkansas town, the louisiana town, and New Madrid, MO, site of the largest known US earthquake in 1812:
from:beebe, AR to:labarre, LA to:New Madrid, MO
also: google Hell's Half Acre, Arkansas
also: http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/arkansas/80715
and from the tinfoil hat crowd: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1223088/pg1
and my first look at Falkoping, Sweden: situated in a simlarly anomolous patch of land and surrounded by enormous lakes. Caldera city.
don't I though?
Chris
No not all of them are, but David's explanation is certainly more rational than secret weapons, chemical trails, and aliens. I would guess that we will see an answer and a bunch of conspiracy theories over the next few months. Of course if Arkansas erupts well then we know that David was right!
But in our Great Lakes (yes, I'm a Michigander), we pollute them so far to the extreme, our fish have become 'super-creatures'. O.O
Hey MsAubrey! Went to school up in the U.P....gorgeous up there
Yes... It is. I live just south of Detroit... Not so pretty there. LOL!
I love Pictured Rocks in Munising. The Sioux Locks too... Especially the part about the channel cat(fish) being the size of a VW Beetle.
Beautiful country up there for sure. Used to love going to Tequamanen (sp?) Falls...and White Fish Point.
I am sporting my Tahquamenon Falls sweatshirt today! : )
One More Time. "I will utterly consume ALL things from off the land, saith The LORD. I will consume man and beast; and the FOWLS of the heaven and the fishes of the sea." Zephaniah 1:2-3 STOP worrying about the environment and start worrying about your SOUL. HE is Coming Soon!
we shall see
I sure hope so. I'm tired of all this human sh*t. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, parents killing kids, kids killing parents, dictators, greedy capitalists, people killing folks for their shoes, etc. etc. etc. This earthly existence really sucks. And I'm one of the priviledged American Citizens...I feel really bad for folks in Iran, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Venezuala, etc. etc. etc. Hurry up and end our misery.
stop it...your scaring us....lol
Alan, Alan,Alan
If HE was coming why in hell would he only kill a few of the millions of birds flying and only one type of fish! HE would kill ALL of the birds and ALL of the fish.
Stop thumping your bible, lay it down, step back, turn around and get a life.
yo...
lynseypug
you can go...send the rest of us a post card......say Hi to David Coresh
"HE is Coming Soon!"
I hope that HE is coming soon. He's done some crazy @!$%# over the years, and has really pissed me off. I would like to express my displeasure with His tactics, in person.
LMAO "I would like to express my displeasure, with Him, in person."
Me too, me too!
I would be more worried if "his" Mother was coming - and I feel She is really pissed and I feel like our Earth is about to tell us all about it. Stop worrying about a sky god and start worrying about our Mother.
Now that's scary. A vengeful god who will kill everything just because he's pissed.
Is this supposed to make us non-believers want to convert? If your idea of a god as a mad as hell son of a bitch who's going to kill innocent animals and people without discrimination, then why would we want to worship or give ourselves over to that? If god is that much of a sadist, then we need to fight him with all of our resources since we're all going to die and suffer eternally anyway if we don't.
I love how the concept of a wonderful benevolent god, who wouldn't care if people believed in him or not, as long as they were basically good doesn't play out with the religious camps. They consistently favor a god who is a mean tyrant instead. That definitely says a lot more about the type of people who are religious zealots than about god himself if he even exists.
That's what I said when I got home last night and was really hungry. I will consume the birds and the fish.
Alan
I am prepared to face him, are you?
Mike: You make it sound as though most people of faith choose their god from a smorgasboard offering, selecting their fancy. Perhaps some do. I do not worship the God I endeavor to serve because I made an arbitrary or whimsical selection. I worship the God revealed in the Bible. I have studied the Bible for over forty years and have come, through the combination of faith and reasoning, to consider it accurate and trustworthy. I do not understand it, or the God is reveals, perfectly, but clear enough to persuade me that he is worthy of my worship.
Galen,
In your 40yr study of the Bible, do you feel that the variouse books that were agreed upon and included by many different church officials over a period of time represents the literal word of God or their interpretation of it?
amen brother. god is showing his people he is on his way. repent and be ready for the second coming
Galan, that an awful long time to research a work of fiction. As far a basing things on faith, why? I mean we all pretty much had "Faith" that the Easter bunny was real and Santa Claus was real. Why? Because parents and adults told us they were real.
They were used as a means of behavior control. If you don't behave Santa will not bring you toys, if you are bad the Easter bunny won't come and leave you candy. Then after we grew up a bit we realized that these beings were false and that our parents used these as a means to make us behave.
Your religion is the same thing. It's based on some magical man who you never see but who watches you every second. And if you don't behave you will never get to go to his magical play-land in the sky after you die.
So to me your Christian God is just like Santa and the Easter bunny, he is made up and used to control the way people behave. But instead of getting something material on this world (like presents or candy) you will get your reward in the after life (of which there is no proof other than "faith). You also are basing your faith on a book that has been edited a few times over the centuries.
Repent so we can get the country going in the right direction.
Repent so we can show Jesus to those who don't know Him.
Repent so we can get closer to Jesus and know His will for our lives.
Repent: a 180 degree turn away from the way we were going.
Repent - get out of news stories and go back to church
WHAT?!? Santa and the Easter Bunny aren't real?!??!! Now if youll excuse me I need to go book a shrenk for the next month or two... :'''(
I know. And talk about trauma when the tooth fairy didn't turn out to be real either. Now what story do I believe?
Oy vey! What are we Jews going to do?!?!
Being Jewish, I get this shoved in my face on a daily basis. "Only Jesus can save you", meaning the entire Jewish population are not worthy of heaven?
Can you say, "Hitler was right?". No, God doesn't think that way, only prejudicial humans do. Open your eyes! Every world religion cannot be right. Even every Christian denomination cannot be right? How many are there? I don't know, but doesn't something seem a little wrong with all those sub-divisions of Christianity.
Follow the shoe! No, follow the gourd! Splitter!
Oh noes!!! Not the second coming...again!!! Every time there's floods, earthquakes, disease (swine flu anyone?), or mass animal deaths it's always the sign of the Apocalypse. Churches and various Christian communities have predicted the end of the world and the second coming several times over the last couple of centuries, and wouldn't you know it, every time IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! I'm not upset or mad, I think it's just sad that an entire religion that is supposed to be so "uplifting" focuses on such fatalism...
Every time I see that line I see an image of a dude in a white robe, long white hair, etc, with a mouth the size of Texas gobbling up everything in his path, shouting "I'M BACK AND I'M HUNGRY!"
Jesus is the only one who can save sinners. Whether they are Jewish, Muslim, English, Catholic, French, Spanish, Nigerian, Somali, Mexican, American, Canadian........That's it. He is calling His own to repentance and those who do not know Him to Him and repentance.
I am sorry that some are shoving Jesus into people's faces. He never did things like that. I apologize for those of my brethren that have acted in a way that angered you.
Sorry countrygirl, I appreciate that you found something to believe in, but you beliefs should not be applied to others, only because YOU think it's right.
If a mass murdering rapist on death row "finds Jesus" and accepts Jesus Christ as his savior, announcing he has been "born again", he supposedly will be redeemed in God's eye and be sent to heaven. While me, a Jewish person who has been good all his life, never hurting a fly, will instantly go to hell just because I haven't accepted Jesus as my savior.
I know to you, that's how it seems it works, but in my own opinion, it's the most illogical piece of thinking mankind has ever dreamed up.
Couldnt have said it better myself, DevAvo.
Devavo....You said it best my friend!!!
Hey DevAvo,
Just convert, then you can kill and rape all you want. Then you can just say I'm sorry. Just because you chose the wrong belief system gives you no right to condem others. Hey I used to work hard for a living, getting up early and going off to my job, then I discovered public assistance a viola, now I can sit around all day posting crap on blogs. I used to condemn those that chose this lifestyle, now I've seen the light!
at least someone intelligent is going to take the time to figure this out instaed of shooting from the hip......wow, there are some very interesting posters in here
How is this news? Almost half a million migratory birds die every year in large numbers while in flight.
diversion from something important?
Nice one American. Take a conspiracy and add a sub-conspiracy. Plans within plans.. You're good.
American Citizen...I don't know if your post was meant as sacasm, but.....you have it in a nutshell. Smoke screens are a G way of life.
Why has no one thought of a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?!?!?!
How would that affect the birds in sweden?
How about the volcano eruption in Iceland? It screws with the weather for a while. Maybe high altitude ash is messing with the birds.
The latter is more plausible than the former. There are a number of reasons that volcanic activity could be a contributing factor. The oil spill would have affected sea birds and certainly birds close to shore, but a couple hundred miles from the gulf? Even if it were the result of contaminated insects from the spill, can you really see a mosquito flying a couple hundred miles to be eaten by a bird? I wouldn't discount it as a reason but it would be pretty near the bottom of the list.
It's still El-Nino. (sarc)
howwa 'bout : the idea that oil is not just oil.. that its a "coolant" for the earths core... and after decades of draining this "coolant" Mother Nature is countering its effects...ie "global warming" not in the idea of atmospherical "warming" but the warming of the earths core... which would cause the ice to melt, in turn altering the temp of the oceans water and the currents flow... which in turn would cause different weather patterns ( even without this new 'weather making machine' ) and the earthquakes (plates moving around under the pressure of the rising temps) Then throw in all the underground testing and dumping of who knows what ( nukes and the like, biohazard materials ect ect )
oh so back to the point... the gulf oil spill... with all that oil just pissing out of that pipe, how do we know just how much came out??? dont get me wrong i dont believe that it caused chaos in the oceans ecosystem... after all microbes do amazing things every day that go unseen...
SOOO what if it leaked out more then the sheeple were lead to believe and it was the "tipping point" to a chain of chain reactions??? That will led to.......
dont F w/ mother nature...
.........Just thinking out loud
And how would the oil spill kill them simultaneously in flight? Poison/contamination like that would make them sick, they'd stop flying, eventually die wherever they're roosting... they wouldn't die mid-flight all at once. I certainly am not an expert in the field, but the suggestion that they flew into a pocket of freezing air (or something similar) makes more sense than a LOT of the other ideas being suggested here. I have to HOPE that most of these are meant as fun and NOT serious!!
airborn ANTHRAX
Remember when lots of whales started to beach themselves and apparent suicide some years ago it was later found that it was caused by the Navy's submarines and some sort of sonar that was ( and probably still) used. I am willing to bet that some sort of ray, sonar probably from one of those secret Satellites might be the cause probably a beam directed ray that those unfortunate animals got caught up in being tested... okay in Arkansas the birds apparently fell out of the sky but also note the river in the same area the fish also died almost right under the area the birds died.. I bet the same in Sweden if there is a near by lake this theory might seem like science fiction now but do we really know what is happening on the space station or those secret satellites in space?
How would it affect only one species of fish? one species of bird?
The sonar frequency produced in the Naval experiments specifically targeted the mammals of the sea. Not only whales, but dolphins as well. Huge kills off California. I met a brudda in Hawai'i who had just resigned from the Navy because they were doing these tests and he couldn't participate because of his native belief in the oneness of all life on earth. I honored his service, even more than the poor warriors who continue to fight and kill for no good reason.
The bird fall was in Beebe, the fish died near Ozark. They may be related, they may not - but those two towns are about 125 miles apart.
How about that specific breed of fish is something of tastiness for those birds. On their way south, they swoop down, eat the fish that are ill with something and then birds 125mi later, start feeling the effects of said illness caught from the fish they consumed.
I think it sounds pretty darned logical. And the fall from the sky is what broke necks and caused internal trauma.
Sorry doesn't work, the birds didn't die from some kind of food poisoning, they died of blunt force truma, they were hit by a fast UFO - ONLY ANSWER!
That's an interesting theory MsAubrey, and a whole lot more intelligent than some of these other posts!
Ms Aubrey Red winged black birds do not eat drum fish...though fireworks scare the hell out of them....;)
@ Mark- The fireworks don't explain the one breed of fish dying... However, one type of fish can die from a disease while another can simply be a carrier.
Kind of like say... Color blindness. Women can be a carrier and pass it on to a son. Or sickle cell anemia. Or Rhumatoid Arthritis.
And thanks evanusk.
You're welcome.
a certain species of fish, a certain species of bird, funny that only blackbirds got spooked and no other species, and are fireworkes set off near marshlands where these birds prefer to roost? then more in louisiana, same species but no fireworks this time. you would think something parasitic would be involved for it to be targeted to a certain type of bird, toxins can pretty much be ruled out unless it was specifically engineered.
Flocks are generally composed of the same species of bird all in very close proximity to each other. Grackles and cowbirds might mix in with a flock of red-wing blackbirds, but they are not roosting when they are flocking together.
Aliens in area 51...hahaha
At what step in the death of our eco-system will it take for you to think: "Get tha gov'ment to do som'in!"
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Would this now be called area 52, area 53 and now area 54??
If it were toxins in the air or chemicals in the air and water, why is there only a "few" birds of the flock and fish in the water killed? You would think that if the whole flock flew through the same air ALL of the flocks would be dead. They all breath the same air not just the red-wing black birds. Where are the dead sparrows and dead pigeons? Where is the dead Carp and dead Panfish and dead Catfish???
Oh please dear government save us from YOU...??????????????
another dependent looking for a mom
You are ALL FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOOLS I tell you!
Don't ANY of you realize that it's a goddamn CLOAKED Romulan Bird of Prey?
You can't see it because it's CLOAKED.
Man, don't nobody watch tv anymore. I knew it was the Romulans the whole time.
Looking around in Arkansas for breeding stock for their politicians. Then going to Sweden to deposit their space cash in safety deposit boxes.
alrighty then a real trekie fan!
@ Koolminx
I was actually considering a dimensional breach sent in a cloaked Carrack-Class Light Cruiser from the Star Wars Galaxy, but now that I consider it, your explanation makes perfect sense. Birds of Prey scouting out potential strike vectors for the inevitable Romulan occupation. Either that or they were about to stop and ask for directions.
Maybe it was the Kling Ons, a few in Arkansas that look like they might have some Kling On DNA in them.
Sounds like just the latest natural occurrence the media is trying to hype into a world-wide panic. The sky is falling!
Natural? Millions of birds flying around every day....maybe billions of them. All of a sudden large groups of them falling dead. Never happens like this but you call it natural? What are you afraid of?
They used the River to dump their Romulan Toxic space Urine out of their bilges from the long space trip. That's what killed the fish....
Slow news day on the science desk because Gore is settling into his multi-million dollar cliff side retreat in California! Needed something to fill the empty page space around the ads!
There's the solution to this mystery.
With a name like Birdsey, I am inclined to trust you on this one.
Right and when you compare the last 6 months to all of history it explains nothing.I don't remember ever reading about these deaths in the past.I would think that pollution or a virus was to blame but that should be easy to detect.Maybe it is a Muslim thing. They could hate animals as much as people