'Houdini-like escape artists' breed readily in the wild
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from:msnbc.comNY seeks stop to wild hogs, may ban captive hunts
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There are private hunting ranches along the east TX highways. The property along highways in south Texas are almost exclusively lined up with high fences with combination wire that even jackrabbits cannot cross through, yet you can still see the hogs that were killed on the highway. At two million, this is a significant population. What are the brains in texas going to do about this texas sized problem? Turn the entire state into a game preserve?
"...The property along highways in south Texas are almost exclusively lined up with high fences with combination wire that even jackrabbits cannot cross through..."
What an overstatement! Sure, they are game-fenced ares, but not even close to "almost exclusively".
Bacon for everyone!
What Texans call "hunting" the rest of us call "poaching". Nothing quite like a fat man in camouflage drinking beer in a heated blind next to a feeder waiting for the corn-fed deer he's been raising all year to show up.
Govnah Perry could promise his folks a pig in every pot.
I thought the only thing wild in New york was women. I'm sure they could tear up any ground there as well as anywhere else.
Keep burning oil and gas and pigs will be your least worry.
They need to ban the importing of non-native invasive species to keep these types of problems from arising. We have far too many problems in far too many areas of this country with non-native species squeezing out native ones and destroying entire ecosystems. There are plenty of native species for these hunters to go out and kill to prove their manhood without importing non-native ones {sarcasm intended}. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with hunters that go out in the wild and hunt for meat to feed their families. I do have a problem with those that trophy hunt and have no interest at all in using what they kill, other than maybe as a head to mount on their wall so they can brag about killing something. If you are going to go out and kill something you should be making use of all the usable parts of that animal, otherwise there is no justification for killing the animal. If you do not want to use it, don't kill it.
I lived in Texas most of my life. The pigs tear up the ground like a couple of D-9 cats every night.Sign of pigs is every where but you never see them if you do it's usually at night crossing the road in front of you. Unless you've got dogs or are extremely lucky I wouldn't start planning on any fresh pork.
Wild pigs are smarter than any ten Yankee hunters on the pigs worst day.I think it is safe to say that when the average hunter does after wild boar he is under gunned and out smarted from the start. In heavy brush I would rather go after a wounded bear with nothing but a sharp stick ,than a real big wounded boar.
Spread strawberry kool aide on the ground and wait with your spotlight, the can't resist strawberry kool aide.
That's the house drink in the White House. Pigs can't resist it.
Round them up and fence them in at the Mexican border.......
You NY Yankes Hunter's cant handle the Farel Hog so dont try a bird dog wont handle the HOG and you YANKEY'S cant handle it
woody....From the reports here, it seems like it is the rebels that cannot handle the wild hogs ! New York does not have a hog problem yet , you do !
Woody, are you a product of the Texas school system?
I suprised to see so many wild hogs with all the global warming and all.
Maybe they can try these trapd in Waszh DC and see what they catch
mike-3400529...the Hogs in Washington are too big for the traps !
All those politicians squealing like a stuck hog! That's about what it amounts to!
This is a big deal. They are a nasty problem in NC. Plus, I'm a hunter but hunting these on a fenced-in game preserve sounds like just pulling up to a pig farm and blowing one away. Not very sporting.
Well, put on your loin cloth, grab your spear, and go for it.
rhscnative
I agree on the "sporting" aspect. That is Dick Cheney type "hunting".
Do they make good jerky or sausage? We have javelina where I live, and they are too gamey.
I am totally with you rhscnative on the fenced in hunting. That's not hunting. But to city slickers it's like the wild west. Too funny!
Why in the sam hell do we have to have anything imported.If you want to study a animal go to where theey live.Snakes let go,Fish pens break.and so on and so forth.Ban all entry into the US.
They want to shoot it, not study it.
A 300 weatherby magnum you dont have to get up close....!!!
With people all over the globe starving, seems like some of these critters could be converted to food . . . export them to China . . . .
They are converted to food. There a slaughter houses in Texas that run on nothing but trapped feral hogs.
Export them to Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, and Somalia. They'd love to have a little bacon to go with their camel meat.
I used to hunt these when I was a teenager with 6 dogs and a knife usually.
All the states have to do is promote shooting them and problem solved. problem is most folks in NY don't know how to kill and gut them.
Craig...New York is a pretty big state, most of it rural. Don't confuse the small corner of New York State where New York City is with the whole State. Most of the state is "country" and the people outside of the Metro area which is a very small part of New York State will have no problem killing and gutting a hog. Take a look at a map and you will see that NY State is mostly rural and agricultural.
If they get hungry enough, they will soon learn. When Obama takes away the welfare payments, there won't be a wild pig left in the USA.
Thank you Craig, Most people think only of the city when people hear New York. But the State covers a huge area from the Adirondacks to the farmland in the western part of the state and down to the city and Long Island.
New York state has some of the best hunting I have seen, and I have hunted all over the U.S. canada, mexico and even africa. New York state is great. Fantastic people there too.
Yup there ya go let these IDIOTS run their DAM Private Hunting Ranches import foreign pigs and this is the disaster you get.These pigs are not native to this country.Well guess what if States are going to keep letting these Jerks run their Stupid Private Hunting Ranches then guess what?You reap what you sow.
NOT TOO BRIGHT PEOPLE!Thanks for adding another non n ative species to this country.Just Stupid!
Now I know why lipstick sales are up in N.Y.
Are we still talking feral pigs or illegal aliens??? Both are a major problem which comes from other countries.
First of all they should be banned as they are not native species. Then the state needs to allow hunters to take a pig as part of their small game, big game and archery tags when they are spotted in the field. They will clean out the wild pigs.
If that don't do it, allow anyone to hunt them without a license. They taste good, so they can be a bonus to anyone wanting one. With the price of meat in the stores today, it wouldn't take long to kill most or all of them off.
Has anyone noticed the price of bacon lately?
Take an hour and watch the Discovery CH. special on these animals. Nobody is mentioning how aggressive they can be. I'm not a hunter by hobby but would have no problem dropping one if it were in my yard. Yes, I've seen the damage here in FL and one segment of the show identified a gated community in Tampa that they had infiltrated. Residents wouldn't let there kids stand at the bustops in the morning for the school bus! They are dangerous and I'm not convinced a 9mm would stop even a young pig. 365 open season for starters!
How about a ban on lobbyists - that would fix a bunch of problems - not just feral pigs.
Why not just declare open season on them, and have bacon and pork shops for the poor and homeless.
Oinkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk you!
The article stated the hunting preserve had 8 ft. high fences and buried in the ground to prevent escape on a 1/4 acre. A 1/4 ACRE? I agree with a comment above....nothing like standing at the feeder and waiting for the pig to show up. Better yet, stand on your back porch and shoot! It's not hunting. You want a trophy pig and a foreign species? Go to the country it came from and actually get off your ass, track and find one! THEN, you can say you hunted it.
Maybe NY needs to go in and cull the herds, like other places do with buffalo, horses, and deer. Or maybe up the limit during hunting season.
I have a question, tho. How do these farms get the permits to purchase these animals? Isn't there a law or something preventing non species from coming into the country? Are they shipped here?
Hunting wild Pigs? Sounds like fun to me! I've got a fine rifle that'd work good on 'em :D
I'd recommend bringing a friend. I'm not yet a hunter, but from what I've seen these animals can be dangerous.
They are dangerous Mack. Some of the wild hogs have tusks that would rip you wide open from calf to chest cavity.
Hunting wild Pigs? Sounds like fun to me! I've got a fine rifle that'd work good on 'em :D
I'd recommend bringing a friend. I'm not yet a hunter, but from what I've seen these animals can be dangerous.
Hunters are a bunch of spineless cowards. As usual, between the greed of the ranches and the "wanna try to convince everyone how manly I am" hunters, it's the animals that pay the price...both the native and the non-native.
City Slicker here! Go guzzle another latte and come back later while real men talk.
SBDesigner you missed the point.
These "game preserves" and canned hunts are for cowardly gun nuts who lack any trace of empathy, compassion or even fair sportsmanship. If they want to play big man and blow something away, why don't they go to Iraq or Afghanistan and fight like real men? Guess they have no backbone for the possibility of getting shot at or having something defend itself. Jokes in camouflage.
Wow, for a minute there, I thought they were discribing humans.
Perhaps we should import Dingoes from Australia to take care of the problem...or maybe bring up some 'gators from down south...I'm firmly convinced that people are stoopid...and breeding just as fast as the pigs.
The HOGS I worry about most, are in DC not in the woods of NY... The polititions are the real HOGS, and yes ,I feel they should be hunted down and exterminated ...
Contrary to the assumptions contained in this article, The ferral hog problem in the rural south and south west pre dates the introduction of these private hunting preserves by more than one hundred years.
Absolutely and there are over 30 states with a feral hog problem. At least in part caused by people turning them loose in the hopes of making a buck of guided hunts. Colorado in the last couple of years has banned guides charging fees for feral hog hunts in the hopes of keeping them from spreading.
I thought Alaska was the only state with a feral hog problem.
Some of the wild hog problems stemmed from colonial times, when travellers "seeded" lands with pigs and other livestock so when they returned, there would be a source of meat. I, for one, would enjoy hunting wild hogs, although I don't think they're as prevalent where I am in New Mexico. I could drive to TX for a hog hunt, but I'd need to find a licensed "host" and also check the regulations for my rifle. I don't know if it'd be legal to hunt wild hogs with a Pm63.